[ANSOL-geral] Friendship from france!

Rui Cruz mail ruicruz.pt
Quarta-Feira, 6 de Novembro de 2019 - 10:03:47 WET


Hello,

If you don't mind me jumping on the discussion, Telegram apps are
open-source but Telegram server is proprietary.

I personally use Telegram only for groups that I'm in, not for one-to-one
messages, and I dare anyone to say that plain text messages stored in plain
text on the proprietary server by default are secure (hint: they're not):
https://www.reddit.com/r/crypto/comments/3xh0as/telegram_stores_all_messages_by_default_in/

Please note that I'm not a member of ANSOL, so I might not even have
anything to say in this matter. :(
But also this could be a good starting point to move away from Telegram.

Thank you,
- - -
Rui Cruz
+351 96 827 15 02


On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 9:31 AM Ricardo Pinho <ricardodepinho  gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Maxime,
>
> > I'm shocked to see that you use a proprietary software as a way of
> intern communication.
> > Was it debated before choosing it? Or it's just very mainstream in
> portugal?
>
> What are you talking about? If it's about Telegram you are mistaken.
> https://telegram.org/apps
>
> Cheers,
> Ricardo
> <https://telegram.org/apps#telegram-for-android>Telegram for Android
> <https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram>
>
> Official Android App, see Google Play Market page
> <https://telegram.org/dl/android> for full description.
> Licensed under GNU GPL v. 2 or later
> <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html>.
> GitHub ┬╗ <https://github.com/DrKLO/Telegram>
> <https://telegram.org/apps#telegram-for-ios>Telegram for iOS
> <https://github.com/TelegramMessenger/Telegram-iOS>
>
> Licensed under GNU GPL v. 2 or later
> <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html>.
> GitHub ┬╗ <https://github.com/TelegramMessenger/Telegram-iOS>
> <https://telegram.org/apps#telegram-for-macos>Telegram for macOS
> <https://github.com/overtake/TelegramSwift>
>
> Native macOS client.
> Licensed under GNU GPL v. 2 <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>.
> GitHub ┬╗ <https://github.com/overtake/TelegramSwift>
> <https://telegram.org/apps#telegram-for-web-browsers>Telegram for Web
> browsers <https://github.com/zhukov/webogram>
>
> Javascript client for browsers. Mac, Windows, Linux.
> Licensed under GNU GPL v. 3 <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>.
> GitHub ┬╗ <https://github.com/zhukov/webogram>
> <https://telegram.org/apps#telegram-react>Telegram React
> <https://github.com/evgeny-nadymov/telegram-react>
>
> Javascript client for browsers. Mac, Windows, Linux.
> Licensed under GNU GPL v. 3 <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>.
> GitHub ┬╗ <https://github.com/evgeny-nadymov/telegram-react>
> <https://telegram.org/apps#telegram-desktop>Telegram Desktop
> <https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop>
>
> Qt-based desktop client. Mac, Windows, Linux.
> Licensed under GNU GPL v. 3 <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html>.
> GitHub ┬╗ <https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop>
> <https://telegram.org/apps#telegram-for-wp>Telegram for WP
> <https://github.com/evgeny-nadymov/telegram-wp>
>
> Licensed under GNU GPL v. 2 or later
> <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html>.
> GitHub ┬╗ <https://github.com/evgeny-nadymov/telegram-wp>
> <https://telegram.org/apps#unofficial-apps>Unofficial apps
> <https://telegram.org/apps#telegram-cli-unofficial>Telegram CLI
> <https://github.com/vysheng/tg> (Unofficial)
>
> Linux Command-line interface for Telegram.
> Licensed under GNU GPL v. 2
> <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html>.
> GitHub ┬╗ <https://github.com/vysheng/tg>
> <https://telegram.org/apps#unigram-unofficial>Unigram
> <https://github.com/UnigramDev/Unigram> (Unofficial)
>
> A Telegram client optimized for Windows 10 (desktop and Xbox One).
> Licensed under GNU GPL v. 3 <http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html> or
> later.
> GitHub ┬╗ <https://github.com/UnigramDev/Unigram>
> <https://telegram.org/apps#madelineproto-unofficial>MadelineProto
> <https://github.com/danog/MadelineProto> (Unofficial)
>
> A PHP MTProto Telegram client.
> Licensed under GNU AGPL v. 3
> <https://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.en.html>
> GitHub ┬╗ <http://github.com/danog/MadelineProto>
>
>
> maxime freepote <maxime+ansol  freepoteries.fr> escreveu no dia quarta,
> 6/11/2019 à(s) 09:10:
>
>> Oh, okay! I'm shocked to see that you use a proprietary software as a way
>> of
>> intern communication. Was it debated before choosing it? Or it's just very
>> mainstream in portugal?
>>
>> Thanks for translating the events for me, I checked them on your webpage
>> and
>> could understand!
>>
>> For the community dinner that could be nice for me to come, if I'm free
>> by the
>> way!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Maxime
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 05, 2019 at 04:48:07PM +0000, Marcos Marado wrote:
>> > Hi Maxime!
>> >
>> > ANSOL is the Portuguese Free Software association, and affiliated with
>> > the FSFE. There are other, local or thematic, communities.
>> >
>> > We have a more or less active community chatting on telegram, if you
>> > wish to have a better way of meeting members of the community, even if
>> > be warned, we speak in Portuguese on the channel:
>> > https://t.me/ansolgeral
>> >
>> > We also have a list of events on the website, but since they are in
>> > Portuguese, here's the next few entries (that I think might be
>> > interesting even if you don't know Portuguese):
>> > * 09/11/2019 - PODES (podcast festival) https://podes.pt/
>> > * 14/11/2019 - Wikipedia for public scientific literacy and science
>> > teaching http://xv-enbe.campus.ciencias.ulisboa.pt/workshops/
>> > * 22/11/2019 - DrupalDay Lisbon
>> >
>> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/drupalday-lisboa-2019-associacao-drupal-portugal-registration-70024034773
>> > * 02/12 to 05/12/2019 - Jenkins World 2019 Europe
>> > https://www.cloudbees.com/devops-world/lisbon
>> > * 07/12/2019 - GDG Devfest Lisbon
>> https://devfest2019-2cbbf.firebaseapp.com/
>> > * 12/12/2019 - GDG Devfest Leiria https://devfest.gdgleiria.xyz/
>> >
>> > We are also planning or potentially organizing an "end of year get
>> > together community dinner" (which you're more than welcome to come by
>> > to), but there's still no defined date or location.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 3:33 PM maxime freepote
>> > <maxime+ansol  freepoteries.fr> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Olà!
>> > >
>> > > I wont speak Portugese in this e-mail since I'm still learning and am
>> at a very
>> > > poor level.
>> > >
>> > > I'm Maxime, from France, and free software user/developer since a few
>> years. I
>> > > participated in some free software events, and would like to meet you
>> during
>> > > this winter. I'm in portugal since a week, and I'm keeping a house
>> for the
>> > > moment, that I can't leave.
>> > >
>> > > I would like to know if there are interesting event during this
>> winter, and if
>> > > there is good places in Portugal to meet free software enthusiasts.
>> > >
>> > > Also, is ANSOL the only portuguese association that's promoting free
>> software?
>> > >
>> > > If it's possible, I'd like to meet some of the members of this list,
>> so I can
>> > > know how I could help at the local level to promote our projets.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks reading me,
>> > > Maxime
>> > >
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