[ANSOL-geral]Re: Ansol-geral digest, Vol 1 #591 - 14 msgs
Joćo Miguel Neves
joao arroba silvaneves.org
Thu Oct 9 22:05:02 2003
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Quanto =E0 pol=EDtica, =E9 a normal. Mesmo antes a discuss=E3o era sobre
reabilita=E7=E3o urbana. Imagina quem consegue conhecer profundamente
assuntos t=E3o diversos.
Gostava de ter uma transcri=E7=E3o completa do debate. Temo que as minhas
parcas notas n=E3o reflictam completamente a realidade... A discuss=E3o n=
=E3o
foi assim t=E3o m=E1.
A vota=E7=E3o foi s=F3 hoje. BE a favor, PP e PSD contra, PEV, PCP e PS
abstiveram-se.
A Qui, 2003-10-09 =E0s 18:24, Paulo Andr=C3=A9 Guia Silva Gon=C3=A7alves es=
creveu:
> Bom dia
>=20
> Ap=F3s ler o a discus=E3o, pareceu-me que afinal eles n=E3o sabem o que d=
izem
> contrap=F5e-se v=E1rias vezes, e n=E3o sabem avaliar a realidade. Posso t=
er lido mal
> corriga-me se estiver enganado, mas com politicos assim n=E3o vamos a lad=
o denhum!!!
> Afinal que ficou mesmo dicidido?? ou foi s=F3 mais uma opturnidade de lan=
=E7ar bocas
> uns aos outros???=20
> Que politica e esta??
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> > 1. [Fwd: IP enforcement directive] (=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=3DE3o?=3D Mi=
guel Neves)
> > 2. [Fwd: Re: IP enforcement directive] (=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=3DE3o?=
=3D Miguel Neves)
> > 3. Re: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?=3D5BANSOL-geral=3D5DAlgu=3DE9m_tem_TvCabo=
=3D3F?=3D (Paulo de Carvalho)
> > 4. Re: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Algu=3DE9m_tem_TvCabo=3D3F?=3D (Paulo de Car=
valho)
> > 5. Ida =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?=3DE0?=3D AR (=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=3DE3o?=3D =
Miguel Neves)
> > 6. Re: Ida =3D?iso-8859-1?q?=3DE0?=3D AR (Hugo Nogueira)
> > 7. Reportagem sobre o Software Livre na Estramadura (Espanha) na Eur=
onews (Hugo Nogueira)
> > 8. Re: Reportagem no Euronews sobre o GNU/Linex (Hugo Nogueira)
> > 9. =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Discuss=3DE3o?=3D na AR (=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=3DE=
3o?=3D Miguel Neves)
> > 10. Re: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?=3D5BANSOL-geral=3D5DDiscuss=3DE3o_na_AR?=3D=
(Paulo de Carvalho)
> > 11. Re: Re: =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?=3D5BANS?=3D
> > =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?OL-geral=3D5DDiscuss=3DE3o?=3D na AR (Ruben Leo=
te Mendes)
> > 12. =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Grava=3DE7=3DE3o_OK=3D2E_=3D28Era=3D3A_Re=3D3A_D=
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> > =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?s=3DE3o_na_AR=3D29?=3D (Paulo de Carvalho)
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> > Message: 1
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> > Date: 08 Oct 2003 09:48:24 +0100
> > Subject: [ANSOL-geral][Fwd: IP enforcement directive]
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> > Porque =3DE9 que n=3DE3o nos deixam em paz? Envio um resumo mais tarde,=
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> > agora tenho algumas horas para convencer eurodeputados.
> > --=3D20
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> > From: James Heald <j.heald arroba ucl.ac.uk>
> > To: bxl <bxl arroba ffii.org>
> > Subject: IP enforcement directive
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> > CODE have a resources page at
> > http://www.ipjustice.org/code.shtml
> >=20
> > The rapporteur for JURI is Fourtou. CODE don't like her report, but on=
e
> > good thing in it is that she is proposing to exclude patents from the r=
ange
> > of IP that the measures would apply to
> > http://www.europarl.eu.int/meetdocs/committees/juri/20031001/498789EN.p=
df
> >=20
> > She says she has been working closely with the interest groups and the
> > Commission, because she hopes they will be able to adopt her report as =
law
> > straight after the first reading, ie without any more alterations. (Thi=
s ma=3D
> > y
> > be a ploy to beat down resistance).
> >=20
> > Her earlier interim report is also online, at:
> > http://www.europarl.eu.int/meetdocs/committees/juri/20031001/495099en.p=
df
> >=20
> >=20
> > Luis Berenguer Fuster's draft opinion for ITRE can be found at
> > http://www.europarl.eu.int/meetdocs/committees/itre/20031001/497744en.p=
df
> >=20
> > and the amendments submitted by ITRE at
> > http://www.europarl.eu.int/meetdocs/committees/itre/20031001/502051en.p=
df
> >=20
> > I couldn't find anything on the web to say which exactly which amendmen=
ts
> > made it into the final ITRE report and which didn't. If anyone needs t=
o
> > know, they had better contact Laurence.
> >=20
> > Berenguer Fuster's report doesn't explicitly propose to exclude patents=
, bu=3D
> > t
> > proposes to limit the application of the provisions to "counterfeiting"=
onl=3D
> > y
> > (Am.3 to Article 2 para 1), with a new amendment (Am. 4) to define
> > counterfeiting: "For the purposes of this directive counterfeiting sha=
ll b=3D
> > e
> > deemed to exist when an intellectual property right is deliberately and
> > fraudulently infringed".
> >=20
> >=20
> > The amendments that Laurence was talking about from the generics indust=
ry
> > appear to be all the ones submitted by Danielle Auroi, mostly adding th=
e
> > words "In cases of deliberate counterfeiting or piracy" to the measures=
and
> > procedures clauses. From what Laurence says, it seems that these didn'=
t
> > make it into the final ITRE report; but possibly because the committee =
felt
> > this limitation was already written in by the draftsman's amendments.
> >=20
> >=20
> > Reminder: according to Laurence, any further amendments for JURI need t=
o be
> > submitted by Wednesday.
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> >=20
> > > Reminder: according to Laurence, any further amendments for JURI need=
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> > be
> > > submitted by Wednesday.
> >=20
> > I have put some more ressources on
> >=20
> > http://www.ffii.org/proj/euipd/index.en.html
> >=20
> > There's also a mailing list managed by Olaf Buddenhagen at
> >=20
> > http://lists.ffii.org/mailman/listinfo/euipd/
> >=20
> > Some amendments have been produced by Ville Oksanen, to be made accessi=
ble
> > via the ressources page.
> >=20
> > I welcome any letter draft and publish it there. A wiki extension is o=
f
> > course also available.
> >=20
> > And translation meanwhile works without personal intervention via
> > mlhtimport arroba a2e.de, see
> >=20
> > http://swpat.ffii.org/group/langtxt/index.en.html
> >=20
> > and the carefully written french version
> >=20
> > http://swpat.ffii.org/group/langtxt/index.fr.html
> >=20
> > on how to best use this facility.
> >=20
> > --=3D20
> > Hartmut Pilch, FFII & Eurolinux Alliance tel. +49-89-18979=
927
> > Protecting Innovation against Patent Inflation http://swpat.ffii.o=
rg/
> > 270,000 votes 2000 firms against software patents http://noepatents.=
org/
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 09:57:07 +0100
> > From: Paulo de Carvalho <plc arroba netcabo.pt>
> > To: Ruben Leote Mendes <ruben arroba nocturno.org>,=20
> > ansol-geral arroba listas.ansol.org
> > Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Re: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?=3D5BANSOL-geral=3D5DAlgu=3D=
E9m_tem_TvCabo=3D3F?=3D
> >=20
> >=20
> > N=E3o encontro o canal do Parlamento (ARtv). :(
> >=20
> > Sei que =E9 no canal 24 da Tv Cabo, mas n=E3o o encontro...
> > e que :
> >=20
> > Freq: 12012MHZ
> > Transponder: 58
> > Polariza=E7=E3o: V
> > SR: 27500
> > FEC: 3/4
> >=20
> > Mas com estes dados est=E3o mais uma s=E9rie
> > de canais:
> >=20
> > Canal
> > TV Cabo Canal Freq.(MHZ)-Trasponder-Polariza=E7=E3o-SR-FEC
> > 10 SIC SEMPRE GOLD 12012MHZ-58-V-27500-3/4
> > 13 HIST=D3RIA 12012MHZ-58-V-27500-3/4
> > 43 TVI EVENTOS 12012MHZ-58-V-27500-3/4
> > 40 TV CAN=C7=C3O NOVA 12012MHZ-58-V-27500-3/4
> > 21 CANAL 21 12012MHZ-58-V-27500-3/4
> > 6 SIC MULHER 12012MHZ-58-V-27500-3/4
> > 9 SIC RADICAL 12012MHZ-58-V-27500-3/4
> > 24 PARLAMENTO 12012MHZ-58-V-27500-3/4
> > 4 CANAL PANDA 12012MHZ-58-V-27500-3/4
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Ruben Leote Mendes wrote:
> >=20
> > > Ol=E1 Paulo,
> > >=20
> > > Querias concerteza enviar a resposta para a lista e n=E3o apenas para=
mim,
> > > por isso estou a responder para a lista.
> > >=20
> > > On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 11:52:43AM +0100, Paulo de Carvalho wrote:
> > >> Eu tenho TvCabo e placa de captura TV, agora vamos l=E1 ver se tenho=
disco ;)
> > >=20
> > > Se achas que n=E3o tens espa=E7o para video grava apenas em audio.=20
> > >=20
> > >> Na quarta feira vou tentar deixar a gravar. Sugiro =E9 que se houver=
mais
> > >> algu=E9m que o pudesse fazer tamb=E9m, seria o ideal, j=E1 que o meu=
equipamento
> > >> n=E3o =E9 do melhor e tem tend=EAncia a falhar. :)
> > >=20
> > > Mais algu=E9m?
> > >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > --__--__--
> >=20
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:40:10 +0100
> > From: Paulo de Carvalho <plc arroba netcabo.pt>
> > CC: ansol-geral arroba listas.ansol.org
> > Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Re: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Algu=3DE9m_tem_TvCabo=3D3F?=
=3D
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > Paulo de Carvalho wrote:
> >=20
> > >=20
> > > N=E3o encontro o canal do Parlamento (ARtv). :(
> >=20
> >=20
> > J=E1 o encontrei, est=E1 na esta=E7=E3o S37 :)
> >=20
> > N=E3o o encontrava porque o canal n=E3o emite em cont=EDnuo.
> >=20
> > Bem, vou tentar ent=E3o p=F4r a gravar...
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > --__--__--
> >=20
> > Message: 5
> > From: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=3DE3o?=3D Miguel Neves <joao arroba silvaneves.org>
> > To: ansol-geral arroba listas.ansol.org
> > Organization:=20
> > Date: 08 Oct 2003 10:51:57 +0100
> > Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Ida =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?=3DE0?=3D AR
> >=20
> >=20
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> > Quem quiser distribuir folhetos e CDs, convinha aparecer mais cedo (tip=
o
> > 14h. =3DC9 por essa hora que os deputados voltam do almo=3DE7o. Estou a=
planear
> > andar por l=3DE1 a essa hora...
> >=20
> > Mais algu=3DE9m?
> > --=3D20
> > Jo=3DE3o Miguel Neves <joao arroba silvaneves.org>
> >=20
> > --=3D-dlOmZLcUF5mtwXGicoup
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> > Message: 6
> > From: Hugo Nogueira <hnogueira arroba april.org>
> > Reply-To: hnogueira arroba april.org
> > To: ansol-geral arroba listas.ansol.org
> > Subject: Re: [ANSOL-geral]Ida =3D?iso-8859-1?q?=3DE0?=3D AR
> > Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:23:05 +0200
> > Organization: APRIL
> > Cc: =3D?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=3DE3o=3D20Miguel=3D20Neves?=3D <joao arroba silvaneves=
.org>
> >=20
> > Ol=3DE0 a todos !
> >=20
> > > Provavelmente knoppix e gnuwin. Algu=3DE9m tem outras sugest=3DF5es?
> >=20
> > Penso na Kurumin, que =3DE9 baseada no Knoppix mas vem toda em Portugu=
=3DEAs (d=3D
> > o=3D20
> > Brasil), cabe num mini-cd (bolsa de camisa) e =3DE9 mais orientada desk=
top pa=3D
> > ra=3D20
> > quem vem de Windows.
> > Eu j=3DE0 experimentei essa distribui=3DE7ao-live e tambem j=3DE0 insta=
lei, posso=3D
> > dizer=3D20
> > que =3DE9 muito boa e faz boa impressao. E agora a que eu uso em vez da=
=3D20
> > Knoppix-MiB.=3D20
> > Site : http://www.kurumin.org/
> >=20
> > Um abra=3DE7o a todos ;)
> >=20
> > Hugo.
> >=20
> >=20
> > --__--__--
> >=20
> > Message: 7
> > From: Hugo Nogueira <hnogueira arroba april.org>
> > Reply-To: hnogueira arroba april.org
> > To: ansol-geral arroba listas.ansol.org
> > Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 19:35:13 +0200
> > Organization: APRIL
> > Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Reportagem sobre o Software Livre na Estramadura =
(Espanha) na Euronews
> >=20
> > Aqui est=3DE0 :
> > http://www.euronews.net/create_html.php?page=3D3Deuropeans&langue=3D3Dp=
o
> >=20
> > Extracto : "Extrematura espanhola, uma das regi=3DF5es mais pobres da E=
uropa,=3D
> > =3D20
> > encabe=3DE7a o desenvolvimento de software livre e a liga=3DE7=3DE3o de=
alunos =3D
> > =3DE0 net. A=3D20
> > seguir, em Europeans."
> >=20
> > Um abra=3DE7o ;)
> >=20
> > Hugo.
> >=20
> >=20
> > --__--__--
> >=20
> > Message: 8
> > From: Hugo Nogueira <hnogueira arroba april.org>
> > Reply-To: hnogueira arroba april.org
> > To: ansol-geral arroba listas.ansol.org
> > Subject: Re: [ANSOL-geral]Reportagem no Euronews sobre o GNU/Linex
> > Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 20:03:30 +0200
> > Organization: APRIL
> >=20
> > E p=3DE0, nao tinha visto ! Desculpem ;)
> >=20
> >=20
> > --__--__--
> >=20
> > Message: 9
> > From: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=3DE3o?=3D Miguel Neves <joao arroba silvaneves.org>
> > To: ansol-geral arroba listas.ansol.org
> > Organization:=20
> > Date: 08 Oct 2003 23:18:01 +0100
> > Subject: [ANSOL-geral]=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Discuss=3DE3o?=3D na AR
> >=20
> >=20
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> >=20
> > Encontram a minha vers=3DE3o dos acontecimentos, com base nos apontamen=
tos
> > que tomei:
> >=20
> > http://www.ansol.org/ansolwiki/SoftwareLivreNaAdministra_e7_e3oP_fablic=
aPro=3D
> > jectoLeiDiscuss_e3o
> >=20
> > Uma das coisas que n=3DE3o anotei foram as "bocas". Se algu=3DE9m tiver=
feito a
> > grava=3DE7=3DE3o podem ver depois...
> > --=3D20
> > Jo=3DE3o Miguel Neves <joao arroba silvaneves.org>
> >=20
> > --=3D-qOMq1c8VhjNgvvzXMyIC
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> >=20
> > Message: 10
> > Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 23:35:49 +0100
> > From: Paulo de Carvalho <plc arroba netcabo.pt>
> > To: ansol-geral arroba listas.ansol.org
> > Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Re: =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?=3D5BANSOL-geral=3D5DDiscuss=
=3DE3o_na_AR?=3D
> >=20
> > O Canal Parlamento est=E1 a retransmitir, em diferido, a sess=E3o do p=
len=E1rio da tarde.
> > Neste momento: 23:33 ainda n=E3o come=E7ou a ser discutida a proposta d=
o Bloco de Esquerda.
> >=20
> > J=E1 sabem: Canal S37 da TV Cabo.
> >=20
> > Jo=E3o Miguel Neves wrote:
> >=20
> > > Encontram a minha vers=E3o dos acontecimentos, com base nos apontamen=
tos
> > > que tomei:
> > >=20
> > > http://www.ansol.org/ansolwiki/SoftwareLivreNaAdministra_e7_e3oP_fabl=
icaProjectoLeiDiscuss_e3o
> > >=20
> > > Uma das coisas que n=E3o anotei foram as "bocas". Se algu=E9m tiver f=
eito a
> > > grava=E7=E3o podem ver depois...
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> > --__--__--
> >=20
> > Message: 11
> > Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 23:57:11 +0100
> > From: Ruben Leote Mendes <ruben arroba nocturno.org>
> > To: ansol-geral arroba listas.ansol.org
> > Subject: Re: [ANSOL-geral]Re: =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?=3D5BANS?=3D
> > =3D?iso-8859-1?Q?OL-geral=3D5DDiscuss=3DE3o?=3D na AR
> >=20
> > Ol=E1 Paulo,
> >=20
> > Chegaste a gravar em directo? Em caso negativo est=E1s a gravar agora?
> >=20
> > Um abra=E7o.
> > Ruben
> >=20
> > On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 11:35:49PM +0100, Paulo de Carvalho wrote:
> > > O Canal Parlamento est=E1 a retransmitir, em diferido, a sess=E3o do=
plen=E1rio=20
> > > da tarde.
> > > Neste momento: 23:33 ainda n=E3o come=E7ou a ser discutida a proposta=
do Bloco=20
> > > de Esquerda.
> > >=20
> > > J=E1 sabem: Canal S37 da TV Cabo.
> > >=20
> > > Jo=E3o Miguel Neves wrote:
> > >=20
> > > >Encontram a minha vers=E3o dos acontecimentos, com base nos apontame=
ntos
> > > >que tomei:
> > > >
> > > >http://www.ansol.org/ansolwiki/SoftwareLivreNaAdministra_e7_e3oP_fab=
licaProjectoLeiDiscuss_e3o
> > > >
> > > >Uma das coisas que n=E3o anotei foram as "bocas". Se algu=E9m tiver =
feito a
> > > >grava=E7=E3o podem ver depois...
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > Message: 12
> > Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 01:06:35 +0100
> > From: Paulo de Carvalho <plc arroba netcabo.pt>
> > To: Ruben Leote Mendes <ruben arroba nocturno.org>
> > CC: ansol-geral arroba listas.ansol.org
> > Subject: [ANSOL-geral]=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Grava=3DE7=3DE3o_OK=3D2E_=3D28Er=
a=3D3A_Re=3D3A_Discus?=3D
> > =3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?s=3DE3o_na_AR=3D29?=3D
> >=20
> >=20
> > Grava=E7=E3o OK. :)
> >=20
> > ~1GB em bruto. Vou agora proceder ao encoding e talvez a um ajuste na f=
aixa de som j=E1
> > que a emiss=E3o come=E7ou com o desfasamento no som vs imagem de cerca =
de um segundo, ao
> > estilo das telenovelas venuzuelanas...
> >=20
> > Em princ=EDpio irei utilizar o Cinelerra para editar. Algu=E9m tem suge=
st=F5es quanto ao
> > codec a utilizar?
> >=20
> > Ruben Leote Mendes wrote:
> >=20
> > > Ol=E1 Paulo,
> > >=20
> > > Chegaste a gravar em directo? Em caso negativo est=E1s a gravar agora=
?
> >=20
> > =C0 tarde deixei a gravar. Como a discuss=E3o da proposta do BE come=E7=
ou
> > muito tarde, o disco n=E3o chegou... Para sorte minha as sess=F5es do p=
len=E1rio
> > da tarde s=E3o retransmitidas em diferido =E0 noite e em compacto aos S=
=E1bados,
> > o que me deu oportunidade de a gravar agora =E0 noite.
> >=20
> > Cumps
> > PC
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
> >=20
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