From lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com Sun Mar 2 19:27:02 2003 From: lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com (Lopo de Almeida) Date: Sun Mar 2 19:27:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral][recortes] Hacks recognized by Affero... e a ANSOL :) Message-ID: <004601c2e0f0$ea6d4e00$552581d9@netvisao.pt> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C2E0F0.60D463E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002E_01C2E0F0.60D463E0" ------=_NextPart_001_002E_01C2E0F0.60D463E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit www.humaneasy.com . humaneasy@sitaar.com Viva, Hacks recognized by Affero http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/03/01/1810209 Anonymous Reader writes "Affero today published their community newsletter - "Random Hacks of Kindness - Volume 2". They recognize worthy contributions by drloss, derb, and BigWillyStyle42 and a big contribution to the commons by our friends at moodle, who are developing a great system to make it easy to develop and conduct distance learning." --------------------------- Por falar na Affero... A ANSOL é uma das entidades que pode beneficiar do vosso apoio através do vosso "patrocínio". Para saberem mais como é que funciona é só irem até http://www.affero.net 1[], Lopo We are with You can be too... ------=_NextPart_001_002E_01C2E0F0.60D463E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

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Date: Wed Mar 5 14:19:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Muit interessante para quem está na educação :-) Message-ID: <004f01c2e321$729839c0$552581d9@netvisao.pt> Quake II Mods for Engineering Students http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/03/05/0015231 [0]gleeklet writes "Has anyone else seen that there is a need for inexpensive 3D visualization software for presentations and classroom lectures? There is a [1] Chemical Engineering package available but compared to video game software, the graphics are a bit lacking. My [2]goal was to create a chemical plant with the process control algorithms coded into the Quake II source. As a short demo I spent several hours creating a unit cell demo [3] Quake II level to demonstrate the use of open source video game technology, which I found was well received by undergrads. Has anyone used video game technology as an education tool for science or engineering?" Links 0. http://mozart3.engr.utk.edu 1. http://www.vrupl.evl.uic.edu/vrichel/index.html 2. http://mozart3.engr.utk.edu/ 3. http://mozart3.engr.utk.edu/Newmap3.bsp From rjgn arroba netc.pt Wed Mar 5 16:53:02 2003 From: rjgn arroba netc.pt (Ricardo Jorge Godinho Nunes) Date: Wed Mar 5 16:53:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]A FSF France =?iso-8859-15?q?est=E0=20em?= greve In-Reply-To: <200303042343.25537.hnogueira@april.org> References: <200303042343.25537.hnogueira@april.org> Message-ID: <200303051209.05980.rjgn@netc.pt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 04 March 2003 23:57, Hugo Nogueira wrote: > Para se porem oficialemente sobre a dire=E7ao da FSF e nao depender da = FSF > Europe, a FSF France est=E0 em greve. > > http://fsffrance.org/index.en.html > > Com divis=F5es, que me parecem rid=EDculas como estas, os lobby's do soft= ware propriet=E1rio n=E3o precisam de se preocuparem muito com a malta do SOft= ware Livre. enfim, como um amigo meu custama dizer, s=E3o guerrinhas de putos est=FAp= idos. Ricardo Jorge > > _______________________________________________ > Ansol-geral mailing list > Ansol-geral@listas.ansol.org > http://listas.ansol.org/mailman/listinfo/ansol-geral - -- GNU/Linux Registered User #190585 Key fingerprint =3D 478B C11B 3802 D151 CDB1 309E 69BF 6F02 352C 9ED3 - - ---- http://fs-oss.cjb.net - - ---- "Some things -and an operating system is one of them- are just too fundam= ental to be locked up in a box. It's basic infrastructure and basic infrastructure must be shared techno= logy" Daniel Frye IBM's Linux Technology Center - - ---- let's wake up the ECHELON.... "Kill the President" , "nuclear", "assassinate" , "Roswell", "UFO" , "eni= gma" , "saucer" , "grudge" , "the farm" , "snowbird" , "dreamland" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Linux) iD8DBQE+Zelvab9vAjUsntMRAmVqAJ9X5l12ZwG+Non9+45CHhz4uFJu6gCfSC/u 3rHkk7GZAQWXpFpKzQ7UNeM=3D =3D+ov7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rms arroba 1407.org Thu Mar 6 10:34:02 2003 From: rms arroba 1407.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Thu Mar 6 10:34:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]A FSF France =?ISO-8859-1?Q?est=E0?= em greve In-Reply-To: <200303051209.05980.rjgn@netc.pt> References: <200303042343.25537.hnogueira@april.org> <200303051209.05980.rjgn@netc.pt> Message-ID: <1046946870.16396.103.camel@roque> --=-jbdrKbhDcV5SwC/YFVIh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 12:11, Ricardo Jorge Godinho Nunes wrote: > Com divis=C3=B5es, que me parecem rid=C3=ADculas como estas, os lobby's d= o software > propriet=C3=A1rio n=C3=A3o precisam de se preocuparem muito com a malta d= o SOftware > Livre. Ena, uma pessoa bem informada que aparentemente sabe mais do que o que est=C3=A1 na p=C3=A1gina!!! Podes partilhar? =C3=89 que tamb=C3=A9m gost=C3= =A1vamos de saber o que se passa... :) Rui --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-jbdrKbhDcV5SwC/YFVIh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+ZyQ2o+C50no0+t4RAqx9AKDbKd8Pj459+EmAXdPqYXkMJibS5QCaAm5/ K8ag/DPlJpyb4cZZ3cv5kHY= =DFDI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-jbdrKbhDcV5SwC/YFVIh-- From ruben arroba nocturno.org Thu Mar 6 19:33:02 2003 From: ruben arroba nocturno.org (Ruben Leote Mendes) Date: Thu Mar 6 19:33:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Grupo de Trabalho Web (GTWeb) Message-ID: <20030306193531.GC2465@queen.null.nil> --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ol=E1, [ Esta mensagem foi enviada para a ansol-geral e ansol-devel. A continua=E7= =E3o da discuss=E3o deve prosseguir apenas na ansol-devel. ] Por minha proposta, a Direc=E7=E3o da ANSOL decidiu por unanimidade criar um Grupo de Trabalho (GT) para efectuar a manuten=E7=E3o da p=E1gina web. A ficha t=E9cnica deste GT =E9 a seguinte: Designa=E7=E3o: GTWeb Coordenador: R=FAben Mendes =C2mbito: Este Grupo de Trabalho destina-se a fazer a manuten=E7=E3o da p= =E1gina Web da ANSOL. =C9 respons=E1vel por manter a informa=E7=E3o actuali= zada, acrescentar nova informa=E7=E3o, efectuar as tradu=E7=F5es para ing= l=EAs e eventualmente outras l=EDnguas, organizar a estrutura e design das p=E1ginas, bem como outras tarefas relacionadas com a p=E1gina da ANSOL. Na minha opini=E3o a p=E1gina da ANSOL est=E1 desactualizada e a precisar de uma remodela=E7=E3o. Com a cria=E7=E3o deste GT pretende-se angariar a cola= bora=E7=E3o de volunt=E1rios para ajudar neste trabalho. Se queres ajudar, subscreve a mailing-list ansol-devel (se ainda n=E3o o fizeste) e envia para essa lis= ta uma mensagem a dizer que pretendes ser membro do GTWeb. Seguem-se alguns t=F3picos sobre o que eu gostaria de modificar na p=E1gina: * Criar uma p=E1gina "Como posso ajudar a ANSOL?" * Criar uma FAQ.=20 * Crir uma p=E1gina com links para outras associa=E7=F5es e iniciativas imp= ortantes. * Criar uma p=E1gina "Como se fazer s=F3cio", com um formul=E1rio online. * Acrescentar indica=E7=E3o do canal e rede IRC. * Colocar a informa=E7=E3o sobre as mailing-list num s=EDtio mais vis=EDvel= do que o actual. * Criar uma sec=E7=E3o para os s=F3cios onde ser=E3o colocadas informa=E7= =F5es relativas aos GT, =E0s Assembleias Gerais, as actas das reuni=F5es dos =D3rg=E3os S= ociais, os Estatutos e Regulamento Interno. * Seria interessante criar uma p=E1gina onde cada s=F3cio pudesse consultar= se tem ou n=E3o as quotas em dia, alterar os seus dados (morada, email,...), saber a que GT pertence, ... Fico ent=E3o a aguardar volunt=E1rios para ajudarem nesta tarefa. Obrigados desde j=E1. Um abra=E7o. --=20 R=FAben Leote Mendes - ruben@nocturno.org --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+Z6MDkNvNeN9nJYcRAplPAKCdIdIOwzg65P9/AwAelAWxxqGfFACfc4yy pjHA//oSAVuhfLJ6rlXicu0= =CruE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --c3bfwLpm8qysLVxt-- From lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com Fri Mar 7 14:43:01 2003 From: lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com (Lopo de Almeida) Date: Fri Mar 7 14:43:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]SCO Sues IBM for Sharing Secrets with Unix and Linux Message-ID: <002c01c2e4b7$04732bc0$552581d9@netvisao.pt> SCO Sues IBM for Sharing Secrets with Unix and Linux http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/03/07/0234251 bstadil writes "The information is still sparse but the [0]expected lawsuits from SCO over Unix/Linux patent infringements has been [1]filed." SCO is asking for a billion dollars. [2]News.com and [3]Forbes are also covering the story. Links 0. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/01/22/188234&tid=155 1. http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?ptitle=Technology%20News&T=markets_box. ht&middle=ad_frame2_all&s=APmfr7BXWQ2FsZGVy 2. http://news.com.com/2100-1016-991464.html?tag=fd_top 3. http://www.forbes.com/home/2003/03/06/cs_qh_0306unix.html *********************** Eu ainda não li bem todas as notícias mas parece que a SCO / Caldera sempre revelou a sua face :-) É engraçado como eles conseguem ter esta "face" e a outra na "UnitedLinux" :-)) 1, Lopo From rjgn arroba netc.pt Fri Mar 7 23:46:01 2003 From: rjgn arroba netc.pt (Ricardo Jorge Godinho Nunes) Date: Fri Mar 7 23:46:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]A FSF France =?utf-8?q?est=C3=A0=20em?= greve In-Reply-To: <1046946870.16396.103.camel@roque> References: <200303042343.25537.hnogueira@april.org> <200303051209.05980.rjgn@netc.pt> <1046946870.16396.103.camel@roque> Message-ID: <200303062110.31286.rjgn@netc.pt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 06 March 2003 10:34, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: > On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 12:11, Ricardo Jorge Godinho Nunes wrote: > > Com divis=C3=B5es, que me parecem rid=C3=ADculas como estas, os lobby= 's do software > > propriet=C3=A1rio n=C3=A3o precisam de se preocuparem muito com a mal= ta do SOftware > > Livre. > > Ena, uma pessoa bem informada que aparentemente sabe mais do que o que > est=C3=A1 na p=C3=A1gina!!! Podes partilhar? =C3=89 que tamb=C3=A9m gos= t=C3=A1vamos de saber o > que se passa... :) > > Rui s=C3=B3 tens de ir at=C3=A9 ao gildot, para al=C3=A9m disso nem =C3=A9 ne= cess=C3=A1rio saber qual =C3=A9 o=20 problema, guerrinhas internas s=C3=B3 podem ser por ninharias idiotas. Ricardo Jorge - --=20 GNU/Linux Registered User #190585 Key fingerprint =3D 478B C11B 3802 D151 CDB1 309E 69BF 6F02 352C 9ED3 - - ---- http://fs-oss.cjb.net - - ---- "Some things -and an operating system is one of them- are just too fundam= ental to be locked up in a box. It's basic infrastructure and basic infrastructure must be shared techno= logy" Daniel Frye IBM's Linux Technology Center - - ---- let's wake up the ECHELON.... "Kill the President" , "nuclear", "assassinate" , "Roswell", "UFO" , "eni= gma"=20 , "saucer" , "grudge" , "the farm" , "snowbird" , "dreamland" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Linux) iD8DBQE+Z7lFab9vAjUsntMRAmGrAJ0YX/V1g1aJXngrrPTl0C5ipuNsTACcCB+y YhAv5NWHwi6K/ORCfnoL+6E=3D =3DzM4I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From rjgn arroba netc.pt Fri Mar 7 23:46:02 2003 From: rjgn arroba netc.pt (Ricardo Jorge Godinho Nunes) Date: Fri Mar 7 23:46:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]SCO Sues IBM for Sharing Secrets with Unix and Linux In-Reply-To: <002c01c2e4b7$04732bc0$552581d9@netvisao.pt> References: <002c01c2e4b7$04732bc0$552581d9@netvisao.pt> Message-ID: <200303072032.35144.rjgn@netc.pt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 07 March 2003 14:36, Lopo de Almeida wrote: > SCO Sues IBM for Sharing Secrets with Unix and Linux > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D03/03/07/0234251 > > bstadil writes "The information is still sparse but the [0]expected > lawsuits from SCO over Unix/Linux patent infringements has been > [1]filed." SCO is asking for a billion dollars. [2]News.com and > [3]Forbes are also covering the story. > Links > 0. http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=3D03/01/22/188234&tid=3D155 > 1. > http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?ptitle=3DTechnology%20News&T=3Dmar= kets_box >. ht&middle=3Dad_frame2_all&s=3DAPmfr7BXWQ2FsZGVy > 2. http://news.com.com/2100-1016-991464.html?tag=3Dfd_top > 3. http://www.forbes.com/home/2003/03/06/cs_qh_0306unix.html > mais um exemplo dos problemas que s=E3o as patentes em software. porque carga d'=E1gua =E9 que havendo patentes, espero que desapare=E7am = da face da=20 terra, as empresas ao adquirirem outras levam com elas essas patentes, a=20 haver, as patentes s=F3 eram v=E1lidas enquanto a empresa se mantivesse e= m=20 actividade, e aquando da sua compra, essas patentes cessavam. isto =E9 contradit=F3rio, mas sinceramente espero que a IBM destrua por c= ompleto a=20 SCO. > > *********************** > > Eu ainda n=E3o li bem todas as not=EDcias mas parece que a SCO / Calder= a sempre > revelou a sua face :-) > =C9 engra=E7ado como eles conseguem ter esta "face" e a outra na "Unite= dLinux" > > :-)) > > 1, > > > Lopo > > > _______________________________________________ > Ansol-geral mailing list > Ansol-geral@listas.ansol.org > http://listas.ansol.org/mailman/listinfo/ansol-geral - --=20 GNU/Linux Registered User #190585 Key fingerprint =3D 478B C11B 3802 D151 CDB1 309E 69BF 6F02 352C 9ED3 - - ---- http://fs-oss.cjb.net - - ---- "Some things -and an operating system is one of them- are just too fundam= ental to be locked up in a box. It's basic infrastructure and basic infrastructure must be shared techno= logy" Daniel Frye IBM's Linux Technology Center - - ---- let's wake up the ECHELON.... "Kill the President" , "nuclear", "assassinate" , "Roswell", "UFO" , "eni= gma"=20 , "saucer" , "grudge" , "the farm" , "snowbird" , "dreamland" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Linux) iD8DBQE+aQHiab9vAjUsntMRAj1AAKDAo5CqUSTKqavRGi1nK1fRpdHmHwCgtJje kQsurggWSNw8VaAcgS1pmYU=3D =3DROKd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From diogomcs arroba mail.pt Sun Mar 9 23:28:01 2003 From: diogomcs arroba mail.pt (Diogo Miguel Constantino dos Santos) Date: Sun Mar 9 23:28:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]SCO Sues IBM for Sharing Secrets with Unix and Linux In-Reply-To: <200303072032.35144.rjgn@netc.pt> References: <002c01c2e4b7$04732bc0$552581d9@netvisao.pt> <200303072032.35144.rjgn@netc.pt> Message-ID: <3E6BCFFC.6000503@mail.pt> Ricardo Jorge Godinho Nunes wrote: > > mais um exemplo dos problemas que são as patentes em software. > > porque carga d'água é que havendo patentes, espero que desapareçam da face da > terra, as empresas ao adquirirem outras levam com elas essas patentes, a > haver, as patentes só eram válidas enquanto a empresa se mantivesse em > actividade, e aquando da sua compra, essas patentes cessavam. > > isto é contraditório, mas sinceramente espero que a IBM destrua por completo a > SCO. > Infelizmente esta situação não está relacionada com patentes de software, mas sim com direito de autor. E não é só o kernel Linux que poderia ser afectado pela SCO também poderemos dentro de pouco tempo ver implicações relativas ao C++. No entanto depois de ter lido mais tarde sobre o assunto (nomeadamente entrevistas com o porta-vóz da SCO), não me parece que a SCO tenha qualquer hipotese de ganhar isto, pois os argumentos da SCO são baseados em mentiras e em absurdos. Fiquem com mais alguns links interessantes para artigos sobre o assunto (inclui extractos de respostas do RMS sobre este assunto, no ultimo artigo): http://mozillaquest.com/Linux03/ScoSource-01_Story01.html http://mozillaquest.com/Linux03/ScoSource-02_Story01.html Nota: estes artigos são bastante longos, mas com eles pode-se perceber o quão absurdo é todo este caso e também pode mostrar-nos um vislumbre do que pode estár para vir. Fiquem bem! Diogo Santos From rjgn arroba netc.pt Mon Mar 10 23:19:01 2003 From: rjgn arroba netc.pt (Ricardo Jorge Godinho Nunes) Date: Mon Mar 10 23:19:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]SCO Sues IBM for Sharing Secrets with Unix and Linux In-Reply-To: <3E6BCFFC.6000503@mail.pt> References: <002c01c2e4b7$04732bc0$552581d9@netvisao.pt> <200303072032.35144.rjgn@netc.pt> <3E6BCFFC.6000503@mail.pt> Message-ID: <200303101909.23230.rjgn@netc.pt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 09 March 2003 23:36, Diogo Miguel Constantino dos Santos wrote: > Ricardo Jorge Godinho Nunes wrote: > > mais um exemplo dos problemas que s=E3o as patentes em software. > > > > porque carga d'=E1gua =E9 que havendo patentes, espero que desapare=E7= am da > > face da terra, as empresas ao adquirirem outras levam com elas essas > > patentes, a haver, as patentes s=F3 eram v=E1lidas enquanto a empresa= se > > mantivesse em actividade, e aquando da sua compra, essas patentes > > cessavam. > > > > isto =E9 contradit=F3rio, mas sinceramente espero que a IBM destrua p= or > > completo a SCO. > > Infelizmente esta situa=E7=E3o n=E3o est=E1 relacionada com patentes de > software, mas sim com direito de autor. E n=E3o =E9 s=F3 o kernel Linux= que > poderia ser afectado pela SCO tamb=E9m poderemos dentro de pouco tempo = ver > implica=E7=F5es relativas ao C++. No entanto depois de ter lido mais ta= rde > sobre o assunto (nomeadamente entrevistas com o porta-v=F3z da SCO), n=E3= o > me parece que a SCO tenha qualquer hipotese de ganhar isto, pois os > argumentos da SCO s=E3o baseados em mentiras e em absurdos. > sim j=E1 li depois de ter enviado o mail para esta mailing list, os diver= sos=20 artigos, incluindo os do ESR e do Bruce Perens no slashdot, e realmente a= =20 coisa muito dificilmente tem pernas para andar. at=E9 achei interessante a opini=E3o, n=E3o me lembro do nome, vinculada = num dos=20 artigos que mencionas, em essa pessoa diz que at=E9 o feiti=E7o se pode v= oltar=20 contra o feiticeiro, ou seja a SCO at=E9 poderia j=E1 ter at=E9 "doado" a= s libs do=20 SCOUnix atrav=E9s do Caldera Linux. > Fiquem com mais alguns links interessantes para artigos sobre o assunto > (inclui extractos de respostas do RMS sobre este assunto, no ultimo > artigo): http://mozillaquest.com/Linux03/ScoSource-01_Story01.html > http://mozillaquest.com/Linux03/ScoSource-02_Story01.html > > Nota: estes artigos s=E3o bastante longos, mas com eles pode-se percebe= r o > qu=E3o absurdo =E9 todo este caso e tamb=E9m pode mostrar-nos um vislum= bre do > que pode est=E1r para vir. > sim s=E3o interessantes, e j=E1 l=E1 est=E1 mais um... "SCO-Caldera v IBM: Linus Torvalds Comments on SCO-Caldera's Linux- Relat= ed=20 Allegations Nearly One-Half of SCO-Caldera Income from IP Licensing and Enforcement By Mike Angelo -- 10 March 2003 (C)" http://mozillaquest.com/Linux03/ScoSource-05_Story01.html cumprimentos Ricardo Jorge > > Fiquem bem! > Diogo Santos > > > _______________________________________________ > Ansol-geral mailing list > Ansol-geral@listas.ansol.org > http://listas.ansol.org/mailman/listinfo/ansol-geral - --=20 GNU/Linux Registered User #190585 Key fingerprint =3D 478B C11B 3802 D151 CDB1 309E 69BF 6F02 352C 9ED3 - - ---- http://fs-oss.cjb.net - - ---- "Some things -and an operating system is one of them- are just too fundam= ental to be locked up in a box. It's basic infrastructure and basic infrastructure must be shared techno= logy" Daniel Frye IBM's Linux Technology Center - - ---- let's wake up the ECHELON.... "Kill the President" , "nuclear", "assassinate" , "Roswell", "UFO" , "eni= gma"=20 , "saucer" , "grudge" , "the farm" , "snowbird" , "dreamland" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Linux) iD8DBQE+bOLhab9vAjUsntMRAl1/AJoCL/2OWLjGoFSC90//jFK1IgwgugCaAy+Z OlBtmtqxsW0JqxVk4Pmjc4s=3D =3DPMJg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From figueira arroba europe.com Tue Mar 11 17:05:01 2003 From: figueira arroba europe.com (Vasco Figueira) Date: Tue Mar 11 17:05:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]convocatoria ass. geral ANSOL 2003 Message-ID: <1047402119.456.13.camel@jung> Caros Associados, O C=F3digo Civil estipula para casos como o presente, que a convocat=F3ria deve ser enviada "por via postal". O Dec. lei relativo =E0s assinaturas digitais, diz-nos tamb=E9m que um documento electr=F3nico assinado por uma assinatura digital, competente e reconhecida, =E9 equipar=E1vel ao enviado por via postal. Para que a assinatura seja reconhecida, =E9 necess=E1rio que seja reconhecida por uma entidade certificadora, ou que seja reconhecida pelos envolvidos. Assim, se do seu lado for reconhecida a proveni=EAncia e a integridade desta convocat=F3ria como vinda de mim, o presidente da Mesa e n=E3o estando adulterada, dispensa-me de lhe enviar outra convocat=F3ria por via postal cl=E1ssica, lenta, dispendiosa. Assim, pe=E7o-lhe que me responda, se ainda n=E3o o fez, ( vasco.figueira@a= nsol.org ) confirmando que recebeu a convocat=F3ria e acredita na sua correcta proveni=EAncia e s= =E3 integridade. Se o fizer tudo correr=E1 bem. Muito obrigado. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D // =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=20 Assembleia Geral Ordin=E1ria 2003 - "Mais um pouco e era em =C1frica"=20 CONVOCAT=D3RIA=20 O Presidente da Mesa da Assembleia Geral da Associa=E7=E3o Nacional para o=20 Software Livre, faz por este documento convocat=F3ria a todos os=20 associados, para a Assembleia Geral Ordin=E1ria a realizar no dia 29 de=20 Mar=E7o de 2003, pelas 14:30, no Departamento de Inform=E1tica da Faculdade= =20 de Ci=EAncias e Tecnologia da Universidade Nova de Lisboa, Monte da=20 Caparica, Concelho de Almada, com a seguinte ordem de trabalhos:=20 1) Vota=E7=E3o relativa =E0 assun=E7=E3o dos plenos direitos dos associados= =20 rec=E9m-inscritos;=20 2) Informa=E7=F5es;=20 3) Discuss=E3o e aprova=E7=E3o do relat=F3rio e contas de 2002;=20 4) Discuss=E3o e aprova=E7=E3o do Plano de Actividades para 2003;=20 5) Discuss=E3o e vota=E7=E3o de altera=E7=F5es ao regulamento interno, rela= tivas=20 ao uso de assinaturas digitais dos dirigentes;=20 6) Outros Assuntos;=20 Os associados impossibilitados de comparecer podem fazer-se representar=20 por outro associado, de prefer=EAncia inscrito h=E1 mais de seis meses,=20 bastando para isso uma procura=E7=E3o assinada.=20 Em caso de falta de quorum, a Assembleia reunir=E1 em 2=AA convocat=F3ria, = no=20 mesmo local, 30 minutos depois, com qualquer n=FAmero de associados=20 presentes.=20 Lisboa, 6 de Mar=E7o de 2003=20 O Presidente da Mesa da Assembleia Geral=20 Vasco Leal Figueira=20 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - || - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -=20 NOTAS OFICIOSAS:=20 a) Haver=E1 um per=EDodo imediatamente antes da Assembleia dedicado =E0=20 inscri=E7=E3o de novos s=F3cios. Recomendamos a todos os interessados que=20 tragam consigo, para al=E9m da natural indentifica=E7=E3o, os valores em=20 numer=E1rio ou cheque (=E0 ordem de ANSOL), referentes =E0 J=F3ia de inscri= =E7=E3o e =E0 quota anual cujos valores s=E3o respectivamente =A415,00 e =A430,00 (Qu= ota=20 para estudantes =E9 reduzida: =A412,00). A participa=E7=E3o na Assembleia d= os=20 associados inscritos antes de Setembro de 2002 est=E1 condicionada pela=20 aprova=E7=E3o no primeiro ponto da ordem de trabalhos, no qual participam,=20 naturalmente, apenas os associados no pleno gozo dos seus direitos.=20 b) Haver=E1 um almo=E7o de conv=EDvio, pelas 12:00 no restaurante (ainda=20 indefinido), onde todos ser=E3o bemvindos. Por favor confirmem a v.=20 presen=E7a por email, para vasco.figueira@ansol.org, indicando no assunto=20 o n=BA de pessoas cuja presen=E7a confirmam e no corpo da mensagem os nomes= . c) Deixamos aqui uma poss=EDvel minuta para a procura=E7=E3o:=20 Eu, (nome do representado), portador do B.I.n=BA (n=FAmero) passado pelo=20 arquivo de identifica=E7=E3o de (a. de i.), residente em (localidade) e=20 s=F3cio n=BA (n=FAmero), constituo meu bastante procurador (nome do=20 representante), portador do B.I. n=BA (n=FAmero) passado pelo arquivo de=20 identifica=E7=E3o de (a. de i.) e s=F3cio n=BA (n=FAmero), a quem confiro p= oderes=20 para, na Assembleia Geral da ANSOL de dia 29 de Mar=E7o intervir e votar=20 nas mat=E9rias tratadas, representando-me em tudo o que se relacione com a ANSOL.=20 (Assinatura do representado)=20 d) Informa=E7=E3o sobre como chegar at=E9 ao local da Assembleia, est=E1 dispon=EDvel nos endere=E7os:=20 http://www.fct.unl.pt/faculdade/comochegar/ http://www.fct.unl.pt/faculdade/mapa_do_campus/ (O DI =E9 edif=EDcio a amarelo)=20 _________________________________________________________________________ From lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com Thu Mar 13 14:07:01 2003 From: lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com (Lopo de Almeida) Date: Thu Mar 13 14:07:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Se alguém puder dar uma ajuda :-) Message-ID: <004b01c2e968$fbed51e0$b62181d9@netvisao.pt> A College Without Microsoft? http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/03/12/0548224 An anonymous reader asks: "My grandfather is the president of a well-known undergraduate-only college of about 7,000 students. He tells me that an alumnus has agreed to donate $2.4 million initially (and up to $800,000 each succeeding year for 10 years) to the school for computer equipment and staff if the school agrees not to renew any contract and to buy no products or services (either directly or through an intermediary like Gateway) from Microsoft. I'm told that this isn't the enormous amount of money that it sounds like and that a change-over to non-Microsoft products would be costly. I think it'd be great for college students to use computers apart from Microsoft, but I'm told that the board will look at the decision in terms of cost, not for benefit to the students. Does the Slashdot community have any points that I can give my grandfather to present to the Board next month?" 1[], Lopo From ruben arroba nocturno.org Tue Mar 18 02:34:01 2003 From: ruben arroba nocturno.org (Ruben Leote Mendes) Date: Tue Mar 18 02:34:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]=?iso-8859-1?Q?Grava=E7=F5e?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?s?= das Palestras do PCT2002 Message-ID: <20030318023622.GM1535@queen.null.nil> --gvF4niNJ+uBMJnEh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ol=E1, J=E1 est=E3o disponiveis as grava=E7=F5es[1] em formato Ogg Vorbis das conf= er=EAncias do Porto Cidade Tecnol=F3gica 2002. Na p=E1gina est=E1 mencionada a hip=F3t= ese de obter as grava=E7=F5es em CD mas de momento isso ainda n=E3o =E9 poss=ED= vel. De qualquer maneira quem estiver interessado em obter o CD pode manifestar j=E1 o seu interesse e ser=E1 avisado quando eles estiverem dispon=EDveis. = Eu aviso tamb=E9m aqui na lista. A palestra do Paulo Trezentos, por ter sido a primeira e eu ainda n=E3o estar familiarizado com o software, est=E1 incompleta. As minhas desculpas. Um abra=E7o. [1] http://porto2002.cidadetecnologica.org/conferencias.html --=20 R=FAben Leote Mendes - ruben@nocturno.org --gvF4niNJ+uBMJnEh Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+doYmkNvNeN9nJYcRAoXYAJkBtUbo1PbpEgg8RUh4pRO5AVvPkACeOjtF wtWllCV8P4lrJCTwpgfeIbc= =48EJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gvF4niNJ+uBMJnEh-- From lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com Wed Mar 19 18:23:02 2003 From: lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com (Lopo de Almeida) Date: Wed Mar 19 18:23:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]sem comentarios... Message-ID: <001d01c2ee43$b6f31a40$732781d9@netvisao.pt> Open Source Gets Booster Program http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/03/18/2119229 A think tank advocating the use of open source software in government is launching a source-code escrow program that would let vendors make money on proprietary software while eventually releasing their products to the open source community. At least one software company says it may be open to the idea. From lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com Wed Mar 19 18:23:04 2003 From: lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com (Lopo de Almeida) Date: Wed Mar 19 18:23:04 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]sem comentarios... Message-ID: <002001c2ee43$c0610b00$732781d9@netvisao.pt> Open Source Gets Booster Program http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/03/18/2119229 A think tank advocating the use of open source software in government is launching a source-code escrow program that would let vendors make money on proprietary software while eventually releasing their products to the open source community. At least one software company says it may be open to the idea. Quiet Protest Marks Open Source Event http://newsvac.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/03/18/2113251 Free software advocates protesting the decision to include Microsoft at an open source and government conference showed up in American Revolutionary War uniforms and passed out a few flyers Monday but otherwise didn't cause much of a ruckus. From rms arroba ansol.org Tue Mar 25 21:44:01 2003 From: rms arroba ansol.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Tue Mar 25 21:44:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Candidatura do Software Livre a =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Heran=E7a?= Cultural Mundial Message-ID: <1048625624.8249.6.camel@roque> --=-qDMuXsUXzH4sC+ZWsef3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Viva, =C3=89 oficial[1] a candidatura[2] do Software Livre em geral para Heran=C3= =A7a Cultural Mundial. Do sucesso desta candidatura pode depender um fort=C3=ADssimo apoio legal da parte da UNESCO contra amea=C3=A7as pendente= s[4] aos Software Livre. A UNESCO j=C3=A1 conhece o Software Livre h=C3=A1 algum tempo, e inclusive = tem um portal[5] de Software Livre. Abra=C3=A7os a todos, Rui [1] http://portal.unesco.org/ci/ev?URL_ID=3D7548&URL_DO=3DDO_TOPIC&URL_SECTION= =3D201&reload=3D1044355008 [2] http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/mankind/ [3] http://www.ansol.org/filosofia/softwarelivre.pt.html [4] http://www.fsfeurope.org/projects/mankind/links.en.html [5] http://www.unesco.org/webworld/portal_freesoft/ --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-qDMuXsUXzH4sC+ZWsef3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA+gMHYo+C50no0+t4RAqbDAKCCyys/NHHxYKKO99+1wP5QrIwnpACggkCM 7iMAm9ja9OUMKOA6uG/6h0w= =EMtK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-qDMuXsUXzH4sC+ZWsef3-- From ruben arroba nocturno.org Fri Mar 28 18:57:01 2003 From: ruben arroba nocturno.org (Ruben Leote Mendes) Date: Fri Mar 28 18:57:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Como chegar =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E0?= assembleia Message-ID: <20030328190149.GA31408@queen.null.nil> --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ol=E1, Estive a ver as instru=E7=F5es de como chegar =E0 assembleia e fiquei com u= ma d=FAvida. Para quem vem do norte pela A1 o melhor caminho =E9 pela ponte 25 de Abril como est=E1 indicado, ou =E9 melhor apanhar a Vasco da Gama? Um abra=E7o. --=20 R=FAben Leote Mendes - ruben@nocturno.org --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE+hJwdkNvNeN9nJYcRAug0AKCwjX/uMzEapY9ZLCBJMNt3LGZlwwCfVpOV WGOFmgfUxwtf9yGF0BKksb4= =U51K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9jxsPFA5p3P2qPhR-- From rjgn arroba netc.pt Fri Mar 28 19:39:01 2003 From: rjgn arroba netc.pt (Ricardo Jorge Godinho Nunes) Date: Fri Mar 28 19:39:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]New Texas Bill Moves Software Acquisition Reform Forward -recortes- Message-ID: <200303271951.38940.rjgn@netc.pt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 New Texas Bill Moves Software Acquisition Reform Forward Date: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 Topic: Linux in Business http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=3D6736 Doc Searls A new software acquisition reform bill in Texas follows another in Oregon= =2E=20 Both seek a fair shake for free and open-source software. It seems there's a fundamental problem for many state governments that wa= nt to=20 acquire and use free software: they can't buy it. Literally. That's becau= se=20 the state software acquisition process doesn't know what to do with softw= are=20 that nobody owns or sells. As political consultant Tom Adelstein puts it,= =20 "Governments require bidding. Since there's no Apache, Inc., Apache doesn= 't=20 get on the bid list." Nor do Linux and other forms of free and open-sourc= e=20 noncommercial software--no matter how useful they may be and how much mon= ey=20 they save.=20 o resto est=E1 no site.... - --=20 GNU/Linux Registered User #190585 Key fingerprint =3D 478B C11B 3802 D151 CDB1 309E 69BF 6F02 352C 9ED3 - - ---- http://fs-oss.cjb.net - - ---- "Some things -and an operating system is one of them- are just too fundam= ental to be locked up in a box. It's basic infrastructure and basic infrastructure must be shared techno= logy" Daniel Frye IBM's Linux Technology Center - - ---- let's wake up the ECHELON.... "Kill the President" , "nuclear", "assassinate" , "Roswell", "UFO" , "eni= gma"=20 , "saucer" , "grudge" , "the farm" , "snowbird" , "dreamland" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Linux) iD8DBQE+g1ZJab9vAjUsntMRAvfRAJ9NWP9v0VKYAbxHqM/1biIlww45pACfcgS6 Pjr0TcOF3wAGcWALt//Ufk4=3D =3D/RV7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From sebrosa arroba artenumerica.com Fri Mar 28 20:45:01 2003 From: sebrosa arroba artenumerica.com (Jose' Sebrosa) Date: Fri Mar 28 20:45:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Como chegar =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0?= assembleia In-Reply-To: <20030328190149.GA31408@queen.null.nil> References: <20030328190149.GA31408@queen.null.nil> Message-ID: <1048883847.10310.2540.camel@paradise> --=-FYg2qgVv6GZ+eJLvwmWB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 19:01, Ruben Leote Mendes wrote: > Ol=E1, >=20 > Estive a ver as instru=E7=F5es de como chegar =E0 assembleia e fiquei com= uma > d=FAvida. Para quem vem do norte pela A1 o melhor caminho =E9 pela ponte > 25 de Abril como est=E1 indicado, ou =E9 melhor apanhar a Vasco da Gama? O melhor =E9 a ponte 25 de Abril. Pela Vasco da Gama tens que andar mais uns 20Km, ou pior, acho eu, al=E9m do problema de descobrir como ir da Vasco da Gama para Almada. =C0s tantas descobres que foste dar a volta a Set=FAbal... sem exagero! Para ir pela ponte 25 de Abril, basta entrar em Lisboa pela 2a circular (=E9 s=F3 ir em frente depois de terminar a A1... mas reduzindo um pouco a velocidade...), virar para o Eixo Norte-Sul e seguir em frente. Nada de virar para a CREL nem para lado nenhum. =C9 s=F3 A1 at=E9 ao fim (palas nos olhos) -> 2a Circular (=E9 a continua=E7=E3o da A1; n=E3o tirar as palas!) -> Eixo Norte-Sul At=E9 amanh=E3! Sebrosa --=-FYg2qgVv6GZ+eJLvwmWB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA+hLKG5QQWZfYWQp4RAk41AKClmx/lzl9OMvdL+U7E9ytY5ftHggCfSb9H 2//xe2XujrRsLtAIp4ywMn8= =PTHT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-FYg2qgVv6GZ+eJLvwmWB-- From vd arroba paradigma.co.pt Sun Mar 30 16:35:01 2003 From: vd arroba paradigma.co.pt (Vitor Domingos) Date: Sun Mar 30 15:35:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Software Livre na provincia da Andalucia Message-ID: <3E862D93.10608@paradigma.co.pt> Como podem ver aqui: http://www.gildot.org/article.pl?sid=3D03/03/29/109206 A provincia da Andalucia aprovou um decreto que visa implementar=20 software livre em escolas, bem como retornar o trabalho das mesmas nos=20 moldes da filosofia de software livre. Aqui pode-se encontrar mais informa=E7=E3o: http://moderniza-dos.andaluciajunta.es/CDA/Paginas/MA2-Conclusiones E para os mais apressados, o decreto encontra-se aqui: http://moderniza-dos.andaluciajunta.es/CDA/Textos/DecretoConocimiento.pdf Penso ser bom, colocar esta provincia mais a da Extremadura como "case=20 studies" bem aqui perto... Cumprimentos, --=20 Vitor Domingos Paradigma.co.pt From rjgn arroba netc.pt Mon Mar 31 21:14:01 2003 From: rjgn arroba netc.pt (Ricardo Jorge Godinho Nunes) Date: Mon Mar 31 20:14:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Software Livre na provincia da Andalucia In-Reply-To: <3E862D93.10608@paradigma.co.pt> References: <3E862D93.10608@paradigma.co.pt> Message-ID: <200303311841.56189.rjgn@netc.pt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 29 March 2003 23:34, Vitor Domingos wrote: > Penso ser bom, colocar esta provincia mais a da Extremadura como "case > studies" bem aqui perto... tem toda a raz=E3o, ainda mais quando a Andalucia =E9 practicamente do ta= manho de Portugal, inclusive tem cerca de 7milh=F5es de habitantes, portanto =E9 u= m case study muito interessante, infelizmente por c=E1 nada de novo. ainda =E0 umas duas semanas enviei um mail ao dr. vasconcelos da UMIC (de= pois de ter assistido a uma confer=EAncia dele no IST) a question=E1-lo sobre alg= umas coisas como =E9 o caso de as redes wireless nas universidades estarem tod= as baseadas em sistemas m$, bem como na compra de port=E1teis pelos estudant= es e a mais que esperada obrigatoriedade de vir l=E1 em bundled o m$-windowze qu= e eu n=E3o necessito, ainda hoje estou =E0 espera de resposta, e d=FAvido muit= o que alguma vez as receba. enfim =E9 Portugal, se estiv=E9ssemos agora na =E9poca dos descobrimentos= e com esta gente, prov=E1velmente import=E1vamos as =E1rvores para construir as naus= =2E... j=E1 agora e s=F3 para complementar a sua informa=E7=E3o: #Andalusian Regional Goverment truly involves with Free Software "Andalusia is a located to the south end of Spain. and it covers 17.3% of= =20 Spanish territory, 87,268 km=B2 in total, making it the largest single re= gion,=20 with an area greater than countries such as Belgium, Holland, Denmark,=20 Austria and Switzerland. It has an estimated population of around 7.5 million inhabitants, a Regional Income of 95 287 Million EUR. (Year 2002) and an aproximate per=20 capita expenditure of 8,806 =A4/year (Year 2002)." http://www.hispalinux.es/modules.php?op=3Dmodload&name=3DNews&file=3Darti= cle&sid=3D188&mode=3D&order=3D0 Ricardo Jorge GN - -- GNU/Linux Registered User #190585 Key fingerprint =3D 478B C11B 3802 D151 CDB1 309E 69BF 6F02 352C 9ED3 - - ---- http://fs-oss.cjb.net - - ---- "Some things -and an operating system is one of them- are just too fundam= ental to be locked up in a box. It's basic infrastructure and basic infrastructure must be shared techno= logy" Daniel Frye IBM's Linux Technology Center - - ---- let's wake up the ECHELON.... "Kill the President" , "nuclear", "assassinate" , "Roswell", "UFO" , "eni= gma" , "saucer" , "grudge" , "the farm" , "snowbird" , "dreamland" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Linux) iD8DBQE+iH8Wab9vAjUsntMRAoq3AJ4sRf8bCWoceV7vjrT7BcHDYELSCACg8f9M 4nGNohsOb+i9nNVybGVgox0=3D =3Dx6jK -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----