From joao arroba silvaneves.org Mon Sep 1 01:52:01 2003 From: joao arroba silvaneves.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o?= Miguel Neves) Date: Mon Sep 1 00:52:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Informa=E7=E3o?= sobre Patentes de Software Message-ID: <1062373724.1304.9.camel@home.silvaneves.org> --=-FcttAVLmaq7jxbG72mrM Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable O Nuno Morgadinho fez uma p=E1gina no wiki sobre patentes de software. Eu acrescentei-lhe alguma informa=E7=E3o: http://www.ansol.org/ansolwiki/PatentesDeSoftware Parece-me que falta informa=E7=E3o importante. O que acham que falta que seria =FAtil para voc=EAs? --=20 Jo=E3o Miguel Neves --=-FcttAVLmaq7jxbG72mrM Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/UolcGFkMfesLN9wRAmSHAJ9dRnecjEe1Wir+QVc3/tPAQPmG2wCdH8m8 ydt78DXdhSfRvGU5HzDtE6Y= =aKm2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-FcttAVLmaq7jxbG72mrM-- From joao arroba silvaneves.org Tue Sep 2 12:46:01 2003 From: joao arroba silvaneves.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o?= Miguel Neves) Date: Tue Sep 2 11:46:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Patentes de Software vs Direito de Autor Message-ID: <1062499439.1285.16.camel@home.silvaneves.org> --=-QHRBJeuFUG9U8/8N4fcV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Estive a fazer um esfor=E7o para tornar mais claro o impacto das patentes de software no neg=F3cio da inform=E1tica. Acabei de p=F4r no wiki: Interac=E7=E3o entre Direito de Autor e Patentes de Software na protec=E7= =E3o de programas de computador http://www.ansol.org/ansolwiki/PatentesDeSoftwareVsDireitoDeAutor Impacto das Patentes de Software no Processo de Desenvolvimento de Software http://www.ansol.org/ansolwiki/PatentesDeSoftwareProcessoDeDesenvolvimento O primeiro =E9 principalmente importante para quem ainda pensa que v=E1 continuar a trabalhar utilizando o direito de autor como mecanismo principal de "protec=E7=E3o". --=20 Jo=E3o Miguel Neves --=-QHRBJeuFUG9U8/8N4fcV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/VHRuGFkMfesLN9wRAo4ZAJ4uRGr0ceIVTK7PMik687lUrr+aTQCfZNna bBcK9Ii8AxKzfPBmIy1u0ek= =Kqo3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-QHRBJeuFUG9U8/8N4fcV-- From rms arroba 1407.org Wed Sep 3 18:22:02 2003 From: rms arroba 1407.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Wed Sep 3 17:22:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]McCarthy considera as patentes de software =?ISO-8859-1?Q?j=E1?= concedidas como legais! In-Reply-To: <066c01c370ce$ab1bb700$0e02010a@hptaf> References: <0dbf01c3551d$01fc2460$0e02010a@hptaf> <1059409843.7411.590.camel@roque> <035901c36aa2$91954170$0e02010a@hptaf> <1061924177.9581.615.camel@roque> <013401c36c14$e1399960$0e02010a@hptaf> <1062407520.2648.127.camel@roque> <04aa01c3707d$b2678ee0$0e02010a@hptaf> <1062436445.3130.89.camel@roque> <05e501c370b0$a20a12b0$0e02010a@hptaf> <1062447987.18135.34.camel@roque> <066c01c370ce$ab1bb700$0e02010a@hptaf> Message-ID: <1062606076.4101.104.camel@roque> --=-NWq6N+lGzJiPj0f6jcih Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ol=C3=A1, H=C3=A1 quem pense que as patentes de software atribu=C3=ADdas est=C3=A3o = em estado ilegal e que por isso, mesmo que a proposta de directiva actual apresentada pela JURI[1] seja aprovada, as mais de 30000 patentes de software j=C3=A1 concedidas s=C3=A3o ilegais. A opini=C3=A3o de quem promove a directiva =C3=A9 de que n=C3=A3o s=C3=B3 s= =C3=A3o legais, pois t=C3=AAm seguido uma interpreta=C3=A7=C3=A3o da European Patent Convention,= como s=C3=A3o inven=C3=A7=C3=B5es genu=C3=ADnas! McCarthy enviou recentemente um documento aos seus colegas Eurodeputados refutando supostos mitos espalhados por uma entidade inexistente: a Free Software Alliance Presumivelmente refere-se =C3=A0 EuroLinux Alliance. Myth: The proposal would legalise thousands of mathematical rules and business methods patents that have been granted by the European Patent Office against the letter and spirit of the law, making it impossible for national courts to revoke these patents. Truth: This is both confusing and wrong. Patents handed out by the EPO, for computer-implemented inventions have been granted on the basis of an interpretation of the European Patent Convention (EPC). They therefore already enjoy legal status and where appeals against them have been launched, far from seeking to revoke these patents, national courts have in the majority of cases slavishly followed the decision of the EPO. The Parliament's amendments, in proposing a more restrictive and clearer interpretation of the law on the patentability of computer-implemented inventions is therefore "not legalising patents", but seeking to ensure that only genuine inventions enjoy patents in the future. An EU law also opens up the avenue of appeals to the European Court of Justice to challenge bad patent decisions in a transparent and accountable way. It therefore enables the creation of European case law enacting the Parliament's demands to ensure the exclusion of the patenting of the business methods. Este documento est=C3=A1 republicado em formato comentado no URL: http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/amccarthy030901/ Desengane-se quem prefere persistir numa interpreta=C3=A7=C3=A3o muito pr= =C3=B3pria de que as patentes de software j=C3=A1 concedidas ser=C3=A3o inofensivas mesmo= com a aprova=C3=A7=C3=A3o da actual proposta, at=C3=A9 porque na vasta maioria do= s casos de lit=C3=ADgio os "infractores" cedem =C3=A0 extors=C3=A3o dos detentores das= patentes antes de sequer chegar a tribunal para julgamento final da veracidade da infrac=C3=A7=C3=A3o, terminando projectos, pagando largas somas de dinheiro= , deitando fora o seu pr=C3=B3prio trabalho inovador. Rui --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-NWq6N+lGzJiPj0f6jcih Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/VhT7o+C50no0+t4RAgAmAKCwbqI7wSLQ7Lcd12+sysRbaCS0MQCgvL5a JmockIUnxtwOjc7WZCAlFtk= =I9cw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-NWq6N+lGzJiPj0f6jcih-- From rms arroba ansol.org Thu Sep 4 11:04:02 2003 From: rms arroba ansol.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Thu Sep 4 10:04:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Re: [Direccao]Patentes... In-Reply-To: <002101c372be$4eb62b20$097ba8c0@pcbruno2> References: <002101c372be$4eb62b20$097ba8c0@pcbruno2> Message-ID: <1062666218.4101.242.camel@roque> --=-xCBurydknoY0ywgPlCFK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jo=C3=A3o An=C3=B3nimo fez-nos uma pergunta sobre patentes =C3=A0 qual respondemos o seguinte: Boa tarde, On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 09:26, Jo=C3=A3o An=C3=B3nimo wrote: > Relativamente =C3=A0 proposta sobre as patentes, gostar=C3=ADa, se fosse = poss=C3=ADvel, que > me informassem se, caso esta proposta for aprovada, se algu=C3=A9m patent= ear > como se efectuam o processamento de uma contabilidade, mais ningu=C3=A9m = poder=C3=A1 > desenvolver uma aplica=C3=A7=C3=A3o de contabilidade. Devo primeiro chamar a aten=C3=A7=C3=A3o para o facto de n=C3=A3o sermos ad= vogados pelo que n=C3=A3o pode tomar uma opini=C3=A3o nossa como conselho jur=C3=ADdico. No caso do software, est=C3=A3o envolvidas centenas ou mesmo milhares de ideias, pelo que =C3=A9 improv=C3=A1vel que algu=C3=A9m sequer tente patent= ear um software de contabilidade, e =C3=A9 mesmo mais prov=C3=A1vel que ao fazer u= m software de contabilidade se esteja j=C3=A1 a violar algumas patentes j=C3= =A1 concedidas, todas elas sem nada a ver directamente com contabilidade tais como: Adobe Patent on Tabbed Palettes This patent, granted by the EPO in Aug 2001, has been used by Adobe to sue Macromedia Inc in the US. The EP version took 6 years to examine, and it was granted in full breadth, without any modification. It covers the idea of adding a third dimension to a menu system by arranging several sets of options behind each other, marked with tabs. This is particularly found to be useful in image processing software of Adobe and Macromedia, but also in The GIMP and many other programs. http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/samples/ep689133/index.en.html Exemplo: http://www.jpherssens.easynet.be/BigDemo27Aug/demo/030827_7.JPG Ou mesmo as barras de progresso: http://www.jpherssens.easynet.be/BigDemo27Aug/demo/030827_4.JPG Contudo, chamo a aten=C3=A7=C3=A3o para o facto de que o European Patent Of= fice tem j=C3=A1 concedido patentes de software sobre outras pequenas ideias "inofensivas" tais como: One person tenders offers and confirms them within a determined deadline if a bidder is found. http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/samples/ep762304/index.en.html Anyone who replaces a price tag with a user-editable pricing function is infringing on a patent in Europe. The following dependent claims let the patentee become the owner of a large part of the problems of modern e-commerce. http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/samples/ep792493/index.en.html This patent, granted to OpenMarket Inc by the European Patent Office in 2002 after 6 years of examination, is identical to a system which is currently being used in the USA to squeeze money out of various e-commerce companies. http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/samples/ep803105/index.en.html Collect buyable items in a list and buy all of them at the end. http://swpat.ffii.org/patents/samples/ep807891/index.en.html N=C3=A3o seria de surpreender que algu=C3=A9m patenteasse um m=C3=A9todo ma= is r=C3=A1pido de fazer a contabilidade com a assist=C3=AAncia de um computador, dado que j= =C3=A1 algu=C3=A9m patenteou o entregar prendas (pedidas pelo cliente e enviadas pelo fornecedor do servi=C3=A7o) a terceiros: http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/amaz0818/index.en.html Convidamos a visitar o site da FFII (Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure) sobre patentes de software em http://swpat.ffii.org/ e que n=C3=A3o hesite em nos contactar. Cumprimentos, Rui Seabra --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-xCBurydknoY0ywgPlCFK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/Vv/qo+C50no0+t4RAgc1AKCy4Lv/1IILkPLBXgJ7SYoc3MLoDwCfQsMs tuCaDwMbXisjbKn43+Q7604= =LD0U -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-xCBurydknoY0ywgPlCFK-- From rms arroba ansol.org Thu Sep 4 12:43:01 2003 From: rms arroba ansol.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Thu Sep 4 11:43:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral][ANSOL] [FFII] Nervosismo da parte de McCarthy e Reino Unido Message-ID: <1062672131.4101.279.camel@roque> --=-hFPUtteCx76Tgzv3JAGL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Forwarded Message----- From: PILCH Hartmut To: news@ffii.org Subject: [ffii] Nervous reactions from McCarthy and UK Gov't Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2003 11:34:08 +0200 Not=C3=ADcias da FFII -- Para Distribui=C3=A7=C3=A3o Imediata -- Por Favor = Redistribua +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ Tanto a Euro-deputada Arlene McCarthy como o Governo do Reino Unido (i.e. o Gabinete de Patentes do Reino Unido e o seu grupo de trabalho sobre pol=C3= =ADtica de patentes, constitu=C3=ADdo principalmente por advogados empresariais de = patentes) tomaram medidas algo extraordin=C3=A1rias para lutar pela sua causa de refo= r=C3=A7ar e extender as posi=C3=A7=C3=B5es legais dos detentores de patentes de softw= are na Europa. Ver mais em PR de McCarthy "ataca" "lobbyistas ... desonestos... rufi=C3=B5es" =20 http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/amcc0902/ McCarthy desfaz "Campanha de Desinforma=C3=A7=C3=A3o" http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/amccarthy030901/ Governo do Reino Unido promove o extremismo nas patentes no Parlamento = Europeu http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/ukrep0309/ --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-hFPUtteCx76Tgzv3JAGL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/VxcDo+C50no0+t4RAooOAKDW032ncp2ocyR2ULpaHlztgQtwuQCgwJwE s4M9eRxS4uoW08MtfUmajLM= =zuH9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-hFPUtteCx76Tgzv3JAGL-- From manuel arroba sindominio.net Thu Sep 4 16:53:01 2003 From: manuel arroba sindominio.net (Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo) Date: Thu Sep 4 15:53:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Bloco Nacionalista Galego contra as patentes de software Message-ID: <1062687039.400.33.camel@briga.celtiga.net> ol=C3=A1: algu=C3=A9m falava h=C3=A1 uns dias do que iam votar os europarlament=C3=A1= rios portugueses.. bom, aqui v=C3=A1 informa=C3=A7=C3=A3o sobre o que se prop=C3= =B5e votar mais um que, embora n=C3=A3o portugu=C3=AAs, dizer como curiosidade q sim util= iza esta l=C3=ADngua no Parlamento Europeu. um dos parlament=C3=A1rios do BNGa (a segunda for=C3=A7a pol=C3=ADtica da= Galiza) falou assim no congresso dos deputados (=3D=3D "Assembleia do Reino" da Espanha= ) apresentando uma proposta do seu grupo parlamentar para rejeitar a proposta de aprova=C3=A7=C3=A3o da nova directiva: "a legaliza=C3=A7=C3=A3= o de patentes de software causaria graves preju=C3=ADzos ao desenvolvimento da sociedade d= a informa=C3=A7=C3=A3o, e, em particular, =C3=A0s possibilidades de innova=C3= =A7=C3=A3o e desenvolvimento dos profissionais e das empresas do sector=E2=80=9D. =20 tb disse: "o projecto de legaliza=C3=A7=C3=A3o de patentes est=C3=A1 base= ado nas propostas da Bussines Software Alliance, BSA, lobby sediado nos EEUU e no que participam empresas como Microsoft interessadas na patenteabilidade do software e acabar co software livre e o sector profissional e empresarial independente". podem ler a not=C3=ADcia completa em: http://www.vieiros.com/noticia.asp?Ed=3D1&N=3D31058 (escrito em portugu=C3=AAs =C3=A0 espanhola :P) infelizmente o BNGa s=C3=B3 tem um parlament=C3=A1rio na Europa.. --=20 Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo From carlos arroba m16e.com Sat Sep 6 16:10:02 2003 From: carlos arroba m16e.com (Carlos Correia) Date: Sat Sep 6 15:10:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral][Fwd: Porque =?ISO-8859-1?Q?n=E3o_uma_carta_aberta_pro-O?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?S/FSS=3F=5D?= Message-ID: <3F59E90A.8030402@m16e.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060605090800020209080907 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smtp.KPNQwest.pt id h86E9jKi003732 Talvez a ANSOL pudesse seguir este exemplo, nem que para isso tivesse=20 que abrir uma subscri=E7=E3o para angariar os fundos necess=E1rios para=20 custear os an=FAncios nos media. Que acham? cumprimentos, --=20 Carlos Correia MEM=D3RIA PERSISTENTE, Lda. 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Uma carta aberta publicada na imprensa=20 (jornal/jornais/revistas) apoiando a implementa=E7=E3o do Software=20 livre/GNU-Linux pelo Estado, reenvidicando mesmo a substitui=E7=E3o do=20 actual software proprietario, apontando alternativas e solu=E7=F5es=20 cred=EDveis, matar as duvidas que normalmente aparecem quando se fala em=20 substituir Windows/Microsoft/software propriet=E1rio em geral. Com a actual aparente sensibilidade do governo no que toca ao abaixar o=20 d=E9fice e na poupan=E7a do dinheiro, aproveitando o momento em que virus= e=20 worms se espalham pelos computadores com software de fraca seguran=E7a=20 vulgo windows, e com o aparente interesse da opini=E3o publica pelo=20 esbanjar de dinheiro pelo Estado, at=E9 que uma carta aberta poderia dar=20 um "despertar" na consciencia das pessoas/Estado que a=20 Microsoft/windows/Microsoft office n=E3o =E9 tudo o que existe para enfia= r=20 num computador, e seja o despoletar para a utiliza=E7=E3o do OS/FSS e Lin= ux=20 em maior escala, como j=E1 o est=E1 a ser no pa=EDs vizinho, Brasil e em=20 muitos outros... =C9 s=F3 uma ideia que n=E3o =E9 original, mas =E9 capaz de fazer mais ef= eito que=20 mandar emails para administradores a protestar, e exigir "Software=20 Livre/Linux na administra=E7=E3o publica j=E1!" em mensagens pelos news..= .. Espero ter sido util, um abra=E7o... V3r9a --------------060605090800020209080907-- From carlos arroba m16e.com Sat Sep 6 16:21:01 2003 From: carlos arroba m16e.com (Carlos Correia) Date: Sat Sep 6 15:21:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sugest=E3o?= Message-ID: <3F59EBC4.2020407@m16e.com> Isto foi um post que encontrei no 'pt.comp.so.linux' e creio que a ANSOL=20 puderia seguir este exemplo, nem que para isso tivesse que abrir uma=20 subscri=E7=E3o para angariar os fundos necess=E1rios para custear os an=FA= ncios=20 nos media. Que acham? cumprimentos, carlos (vamos l=E1 a ver se o moderador autom=E1tico deixa passar isto...) --- quote --- Carta aberta ao Sr. Ministro de Ciencia e Tecnolog=EDa de Espanha: https://www.hispalinux.es/docs/pique1.html Olhando para este link do grupo Hispalinux espanhol, porque n=E3o fazer o= =20 mesmo c=E1 em Portugal? Uma carta aberta publicada na imprensa=20 (jornal/jornais/revistas) apoiando a implementa=E7=E3o do Software=20 livre/GNU-Linux pelo Estado, reenvidicando mesmo a substitui=E7=E3o do=20 actual software proprietario, apontando alternativas e solu=E7=F5es=20 cred=EDveis, matar as duvidas que normalmente aparecem quando se fala em=20 substituir Windows/Microsoft/software propriet=E1rio em geral. Com a actual aparente sensibilidade do governo no que toca ao abaixar o=20 d=E9fice e na poupan=E7a do dinheiro, aproveitando o momento em que virus= e=20 worms se espalham pelos computadores com software de fraca seguran=E7a=20 vulgo windows, e com o aparente interesse da opini=E3o publica pelo=20 esbanjar de dinheiro pelo Estado, at=E9 que uma carta aberta poderia dar=20 um "despertar" na consciencia das pessoas/Estado que a=20 Microsoft/windows/Microsoft office n=E3o =E9 tudo o que existe para enfia= r=20 num computador, e seja o despoletar para a utiliza=E7=E3o do OS/FSS e Lin= ux=20 em maior escala, como j=E1 o est=E1 a ser no pa=EDs vizinho, Brasil e em=20 muitos outros... =C9 s=F3 uma ideia que n=E3o =E9 original, mas =E9 capaz de fazer mais ef= eito que=20 mandar emails para administradores a protestar, e exigir "Software=20 Livre/Linux na administra=E7=E3o publica j=E1!" em mensagens pelos news..= .. Espero ter sido util, um abra=E7o... V3r9a --- end-quote --- --=20 Carlos Correia MEM=D3RIA PERSISTENTE, Lda. Tel: 219 291 591 GSM: 967 511 762 e-mail: carlos@m16e.com URL: http://www.m16e.com From pagsg arroba vizzavi.pt Sun Sep 7 20:43:01 2003 From: pagsg arroba vizzavi.pt (Paulo André Guia Silva Gonçalves) Date: Sun Sep 7 19:43:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Re: Ansol-geral digest, Vol 1 #574 - 3 msgs In-Reply-To: <20030907052738.30503.61531.Mailman@default.null> References: <20030907052738.30503.61531.Mailman@default.null> Message-ID: <20030907191218.7dee6399.pagsg@vizzavi.pt> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_4NT+UYbcDyOYbmDC2EXFCA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Talvez este ficheiro que mando em anexo possa ser util para enviar ao= ministro da educa=E7=E3o e ao da ci=EAncia On Sun, 07 Sep 2003 06:27:38 +0100 ansol-geral-request@listas.ansol.org wrote: > Send Ansol-geral mailing list submissions to > =09ansol-geral@listas.ansol.org >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > =09http://listas.ansol.org/mailman/listinfo/ansol-geral > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > =09ansol-geral-request@listas.ansol.org >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at > =09ansol-geral-admin@listas.ansol.org >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Ansol-geral digest..." >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics: >=20 > 1. 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Uma carta aberta publicada na imprensa= =3D20 > (jornal/jornais/revistas) apoiando a implementa=3DE7=3DE3o do Softw= are=3D20 > livre/GNU-Linux pelo Estado, reenvidicando mesmo a substitui=3DE7= =3DE3o do=3D20 > actual software proprietario, apontando alternativas e solu=3DE7= =3DF5es=3D20 > cred=3DEDveis, matar as duvidas que normalmente aparecem quando se = fala em=3D20 > substituir Windows/Microsoft/software propriet=3DE1rio em geral. > Com a actual aparente sensibilidade do governo no que toca ao abaix= ar o=3D20 > d=3DE9fice e na poupan=3DE7a do dinheiro, aproveitando o momento em= que virus=3D > e=3D20 > worms se espalham pelos computadores com software de fraca seguran= =3DE7a=3D20 > vulgo windows, e com o aparente interesse da opini=3DE3o publica p= elo=3D20 > esbanjar de dinheiro pelo Estado, at=3DE9 que uma carta aberta pode= ria dar=3D20 > um "despertar" na consciencia das pessoas/Estado que a=3D20 > Microsoft/windows/Microsoft office n=3DE3o =3DE9 tudo o que existe = para enfia=3D > r=3D20 > num computador, e seja o despoletar para a utiliza=3DE7=3DE3o do OS= /FSS e Lin=3D > ux=3D20 > em maior escala, como j=3DE1 o est=3DE1 a ser no pa=3DEDs vizinho, = Brasil e em=3D20 > muitos outros... >=20 > =3DC9 s=3DF3 uma ideia que n=3DE3o =3DE9 original, mas =3DE9 capaz = de fazer mais ef=3D > eito que=3D20 > mandar emails para administradores a protestar, e exigir "Software= =3D20 > Livre/Linux na administra=3DE7=3DE3o publica j=3DE1!" em mensagens = pelos news..=3D > .. >=20 > Espero ter sido util, um abra=3DE7o... >=20 > V3r9a >=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------060605090800020209080907-- >=20 >=20 >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 15:14:28 +0100 > From: Carlos Correia > To: Lista ANSOL Geral > Subject: [ANSOL-geral]=3D?ISO-8859-1?Q?Sugest=3DE3o?=3D >=20 > Isto foi um post que encontrei no 'pt.comp.so.linux' e creio que a = ANSOL=3D20 > puderia seguir este exemplo, nem que para isso tivesse que abrir um= a=3D20 > subscri=3DE7=3DE3o para angariar os fundos necess=3DE1rios para cus= tear os an=3DFA=3D > ncios=3D20 > nos media. >=20 > Que acham? >=20 > cumprimentos, >=20 > carlos >=20 > (vamos l=3DE1 a ver se o moderador autom=3DE1tico deixa passar isto= ...) >=20 > --- quote --- > Carta aberta ao Sr. Ministro de Ciencia e Tecnolog=3DEDa de Espanha= : >=20 > https://www.hispalinux.es/docs/pique1.html >=20 >=20 > Olhando para este link do grupo Hispalinux espanhol, porque n=3DE3o= fazer o=3D > =3D20 > mesmo c=3DE1 em Portugal? Uma carta aberta publicada na imprensa= =3D20 > (jornal/jornais/revistas) apoiando a implementa=3DE7=3DE3o do Softw= are=3D20 > livre/GNU-Linux pelo Estado, reenvidicando mesmo a substitui=3DE7= =3DE3o do=3D20 > actual software proprietario, apontando alternativas e solu=3DE7= =3DF5es=3D20 > cred=3DEDveis, matar as duvidas que normalmente aparecem quando se = fala em=3D20 > substituir Windows/Microsoft/software propriet=3DE1rio em geral. > Com a actual aparente sensibilidade do governo no que toca ao abaix= ar o=3D20 > d=3DE9fice e na poupan=3DE7a do dinheiro, aproveitando o momento em= que virus=3D > e=3D20 > worms se espalham pelos computadores com software de fraca seguran= =3DE7a=3D20 > vulgo windows, e com o aparente interesse da opini=3DE3o publica p= elo=3D20 > esbanjar de dinheiro pelo Estado, at=3DE9 que uma carta aberta pode= ria dar=3D20 > um "despertar" na consciencia das pessoas/Estado que a=3D20 > Microsoft/windows/Microsoft office n=3DE3o =3DE9 tudo o que existe = para enfia=3D > r=3D20 > num computador, e seja o despoletar para a utiliza=3DE7=3DE3o do OS= /FSS e Lin=3D > ux=3D20 > em maior escala, como j=3DE1 o est=3DE1 a ser no pa=3DEDs vizinho, = Brasil e em=3D20 > muitos outros... >=20 > =3DC9 s=3DF3 uma ideia que n=3DE3o =3DE9 original, mas =3DE9 capaz = de fazer mais ef=3D > eito que=3D20 > mandar emails para administradores a protestar, e exigir "Software= =3D20 > Livre/Linux na administra=3DE7=3DE3o publica j=3DE1!" em mensagens = pelos news..=3D > .. >=20 > Espero ter sido util, um abra=3DE7o... >=20 > V3r9a > --- end-quote --- >=20 > --=3D20 > Carlos Correia > MEM=3DD3RIA PERSISTENTE, Lda. > Tel: 219 291 591 > GSM: 967 511 762 > e-mail: carlos@m16e.com > URL: http://www.m16e.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --__--__-- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Ansol-geral mailing list > Ansol-geral@listas.ansol.org > http://listas.ansol.org/mailman/listinfo/ansol-geral >=20 >=20 > End of Ansol-geral Digest 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artigo no The Economist Message-ID: <200309080005.12603.hnogueira@april.org> http://www.economist.com/business/displayStory.cfm?story_id=2043416 Software patents A clicking bomb Sep 4th 2003 From The Economist print edition An explosive row over how to protect intellectual property in Europe WIDGET inventors file patents. Prose and pictures are protected by copyright. But what about a new piece of encryption software or an internet business method, such as Amazon.com's "one-click shopping"? Should they also be covered by patents, or do copyright and trade secrets suffice? These questions underlie a heated controversy in Europe pitting open-source advocates, software developers and academics against big software firms, intellectual property lawyers and the European Commission. Because of the row, the European Parliament has again postponed the first reading of a directive on computer-related inventions, scheduled for this week. And it remains to be seen whether the parliament will tackle the controversial proposal when it reconvenes on September 22nd. The issue of patents for software and business methods has been causing a stir in America ever since the Patent and Trademark Office started issuing patents on internet business methods in 1998, most famously that for one-click shopping. Proponents argue that these patents provide the necessary incentives to innovate at a time when more inventions are computer-related. Critics claim that such intellectual monopolies hinder innovation, because software giants can use them to attack fledgling competitors. Moreover, as software is often built on the achievements of others, writing code could become a legal hurdle race. By analogy, if Haydn had patented the symphony form, Mozart would have been in trouble. If the debate is more heated in Europe, it is because the directive in question is supposed to achieve two things at once. For one, it aims to harmonise how computer-implemented inventions are dealt with across the European Union--in order to avoid situations in which an invention is protected in one member state but not in another. Now, although many patents are centrally awarded by the European Patent Office (EPO) in Munich, national courts have the final say over a patent's validity. In Britain, business methods are generally not patentable, but they can sometimes be patented in Germany. The EPO, by the way, granted Amazon a patent in May covering computerised methods of delivering gifts to third parties, a descendant of its one-click patent in America. Such cases illustrate the directive's other thrust. The European Commission wants to avoid the American situation, in which case law drives authorities to issue computer-related patents all too easily, in particular for business methods and algorithms. Software, say to control an X-ray machine, should remain unpatentable, but the entire apparatus--the combination of software and hardware--could be protected by a patent. In the words of the directive, to be patentable an invention must make a "technical contribution"--meaning "a contribution to the state of the art in a technical field which is not obvious to a person skilled in the art". Unsurprisingly, this definition is particularly controversial. Larger software firms in the Business Software Alliance are happy. Smaller firms and open-source lobby groups, such as the Foundation for a Free Information Infrastructure, are up in arms. They think the directive's lack of clarity will make American-style patents possible, and are arguing for a more watertight definition. Arlene McCarthy, the rapporteur of the European Parliament's committee for legal affairs and the internal market, has now proposed an additional test for patentability: an invention must teach a new way to use "controllable forces of nature" (really) and have an "industrial application". This aims to strengthen the exclusion of pure software and business methods. Finding the right balance will not be easy. Patents can be a spur to innovation, but they can also be an obstacle, and the great advantage of digital technology was supposed to be its very malleability. Moreover, there is another headache. The harder it is to patent computer-related inventions in Europe, the wider will be the legal gap with America. From gotcha arroba openbsd-pt.org Mon Sep 8 08:15:02 2003 From: gotcha arroba openbsd-pt.org (gotcha) Date: Mon Sep 8 07:15:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Encontro Openbsd Portugal Message-ID: <20030908060251.175b3210.gotcha@openbsd-pt.org> Encontro OpenBSD PT "plug-in and contribute your knowledge, energy and curiosity"=20 http://meeting.openbsd-pt.org 13 de Setembro, Lisboa =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D OpenBSD PT =E9 um diminuitivo de "Grupo de Utilizadores Portugu=EAs do O= penBSD" (ver http://www.OpenBSD-PT.org), utilizado pelos seus membros na rede glo= bal. Numa altura em que faz um ano e pouco desde que foi feito o an=FAncio p=FA= blico sobre a exist=EAncia do grupo, realiza-se agora no pr=F3ximo dia 13 de Se= tembro o primeiro encontro ao vivo dos seus membros e entusiastas. ( ver http://meeting.openbsd-pt.org ) As pessoas s=E3o encorajadas a trazer os seus PC's e port=E1teis com os respectivos cabos de rede e ligarem-se. Ir=E3o haver tomadas de rede e electricidade, mesas, cadeiras, bolinhos e caf=E9. Estamos =E0 procura de volunt=E1rios que queiram levar um AP de maneira a= fornecer rede Wireless. O encontro ter=E1 lugar entre as 15:00 e as 20:00h. =20 H=E1 projector de video para palestras se houver volunt=E1rios para pales= tras, bem como um PC com windows para os powerpoints. Existir=E1 um mirror local (cvs e ftp) para quem quiser instalar o sistem= a e os membros do grupo estar=E3o por l=E1 para ajudar no que for preciso. Estar=E3o tamb=E9m disponiveis t-shirts e autocolantes OpenBSD PT. (ver http://meeting.openbsd-pt.org) As inscri=E7=F5es devem ser feitas quanto antes no site do encontro visto= que existe um n=FAmero clausos de participantes. A entrada no encontro =E9 gratuita. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Sobre o OpenBSD: O OpenBSD (http://www.OpenBSD.org) =E9 um sistema operativo UNIX-like cuj= a aspira=E7=E3o dos seus idealistas =E9 torn=E1-lo o n=FAmero um na industr= ia para a seguran=E7a, baseando-se num modelo de desenvolvimento aberto e numa abor= dagem diferente em rela=E7=E3o =E0 seguran=E7a (ver http://www.openbsd.org/secu= rity.html). Come=E7ou por ser desenvolvido por Theo de Raadt e a sua abordagem relativamente =E0 seguran=E7a rapidamente atraiu milhares de hackers por = todo o mundo. Activo desde h=E1 um ano e pouco, o OpenBSD PT =E9 um grupo de volunt=E1r= ios e utilizadores portugueses do OpenBSD que =E9 j=E1 uma refer=EAncia naciona= l no que diz respeito ao uso deste sistema operativo. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D Sobre o OpenBSD PT: O OpenBSD PT tem estado activo mantendo o seu site, http://www.OpenBSD-PT= .org, com not=EDcias, destaques nacionais e internacionais, ajuda ao p=FAblico,= etc..=20 Em conjunto com o site, =E9 mantido um forum de discuss=E3o via web (ver http://forum.openbsd-pt.org) em que se trocam ideias e partilham-se experi=EAncias relacionadas com o uso do OpenBSD e da seguran=E7a inform=E1= tica em geral. A Mailing List do OpenBSD PT (ver http://ml.openbsd-pt.org) =E9 outro mei= o de discuss=E3o mantido por n=F3s e conta com utilizadores portugueses e bras= ileiros num total de 58 elementos inscritos de momento. Mais recentemente, visto termos a certeza que existem pessoas dispostas a participar com o seu tempo e trabalho e n=E3o o fazem por n=E3o saber com= o, foi montado um Wiki - para quem n=E3o conhece ver a primeira p=E1gina do Wiki= em http://wiki.openbsd-pt.org ) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D VIRUS: Se conhece algum forum, news-site ou rede que sente que esta mensagem podia estar l=E1, redirecione este email para l=E1. IRC, /etc/motd,AUTOEX= EC.BAT, you name it. Spread the worm, uh, word. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D From rsr arroba portoware.com Tue Sep 16 18:30:04 2003 From: rsr arroba portoware.com (rsr@portoware.com) Date: Tue Sep 16 17:30:04 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]=?iso-8859-1?Q?1=BA_Congresso_do_Noroeste.?= Message-ID: <3975.213.13.226.126.1063729801.squirrel@www.portoware.com> 1=BA Congresso do Noroeste. Nos pr=F3ximos dias 27 e 28 realizar-se-=E1 o 1=BA Congresso do Noroeste = que ter=E1 lugar na Casa de Cultura del Ayuntamiento de Vilagarc=EDa de Arousa (12km= de San Senxo, Galiza). Entre as actividades previstas est=E3o, al=E9m do encontro de entusiastas= do Software Livre e do GNU/Linux a partilha de experi=EAncias e col=F3quios = sobre temas relacionados. Entrada Livre. Site do evento: http://www.linuxnoroeste.com/ Cumprimentos, Rui Rodrigues From rjgn arroba netc.pt Tue Sep 16 23:04:02 2003 From: rjgn arroba netc.pt (Ricardo Jorge Godinho Nunes) Date: Tue Sep 16 22:04:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Sun exec: Open-source is irrelevant - tb sobre patentes Message-ID: <200309161316.31521.rjgn@netc.pt> =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 "Sun exec: Open-source is irrelevant http://www.computerworld.com/softwaretopics/software/story/0,10801,84804,00= =2Ehtml Open standards matter far more, he argues Opinion by Jonathan Schwartz, executive vice president, Sun Microsystems SEPTEMBER 12, 2003 ( COMPUTERWORLD ) - Last weekend, I went to go look up a= =20 patent filing at the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (PTO). It was a reall= y=20 engaging experience=EF=BF=BDit's a fascinating site, with filings dating ba= ck to=20 1790. Just for yuks, I decided to explore what it takes to file a patent. I= =20 was in for a rude surprise: The site, and the PTO, demand that all online=20 patent applications be submitted using Microsoft Word. Now, why is that a problem? Well, it's a problem because my company doesn't use Microsoft products. Nor= =20 can most people afford them. And if you don't have a copy of Word, does tha= t=20 mean you have to pay Microsoft for the privilege of submitting a patent=20 application? To protect your own intellectual property? And the government= =20 has mandated that? Something must be wrong here. One school of thought says, "Open-source will stop this nonsense." I don't buy it. To me, open-source is irrelevant to the discussion. And as the industry's=20 single largest contributor to the open-source movement, I don't say that=20 lightly. The issue for patent submitters isn't the licensing convention used to buil= d=20 the word-processing application. At least for my customers, purchasing=20 decisions are never made on the basis of the licensing convention used to=20 build the product=EF=BF=BDcustomers care far more about product quality,=20 price/performance when compared to the competition, and (especially of late= )=20 their security attributes. None of those issues have anything to do with=20 open-source any more than whether Sun employs left-handed engineers to buil= d=20 the products, or marketing folks who work weekends (we do, both). What's at stake isn't whether the source code to Microsoft Word is availabl= e.=20 Even if it were, you'd still need a copy of Microsoft Word to submit a=20 patent. And you'd have to pay for the brand, or be smart enough to build th= e=20 source tree.=09 If the file format used to submit a patent were publicly available, it'd be= up=20 to me to determine how I elected to submit my application=EF=BF=BDso long a= s I=20 followed the standard. And if I stopped liking the word processor I was=20 using, I could move to another that supported the standard. My choice. And = if=20 the standard were royalty-free, such as those formats available through=20 OASIS, then any organization that wanted to interact with the PTO, or with= =20 the patent submitters, could do so without fear of dependency upon=20 proprietary technology. Now a variety of technology companies are delivering proprietary technology= =20 into the world, and they're creating dependencies while hiding under a shro= ud=20 called "open-source." Don't be fooled, they're shirking the very open=20 standards that guarantee interoperability. Why? Because they don't like=20 interoperability=EF=BF=BDthey like dependency. As the supplier of the only cross-platform office productivity suite on the= =20 market, StarOffice, I don't say the following lightly: Ignore the fact that= =20 StarOffice is open-source. It's an irrelevance. =46ocus on the open standards we follow. They matter far, far more. Jonathan Schwartz is executive vice president of Sun Microsystems Inc.'s=20 software group, which includes the Solaris operating systems, the Java=20 technology platform, Project Mad Hatter and Project Orion. This column=20 expands on points he made in a LinuxWorld keynote address. The issue isn't open-source, folks=EF=BF=BDit's open standards." Ricardo Jorge =2D --=20 GNU/Linux Registered User #190585 Key fingerprint =3D 478B C11B 3802 D151 CDB1 309E 69BF 6F02 352C 9ED3 KeyID =3D 352C9ED3 http://pgp.mit.edu/ =2D - ---- http://fs-oss.cjb.net =2D - ---- "Some things -and an operating system is one of them- are just too fundamen= tal to be locked up in a box. It's basic infrastructure and basic infrastructure must be shared technolo= gy" Daniel Frye IBM's Linux Technology Center =2D ---- Please DON'T send me m$-WORD, m$-EXCEL or m$-POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html Use instead an open file type/format like the one provided by the Multiplatform OpenOffice.org - http://www.openoffice.org =2D - ---- let's wake up the ECHELON.... "Kill the President" , "nuclear", "assassinate" , "Roswell", "UFO" , "enigm= a"=20 , "saucer" , "grudge" , "the farm" , "snowbird" , "dreamland" =2D----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/Zv8dab9vAjUsntMRAiQYAKDJTk9s1EaiYV/1NpzPKgJA/Xxo0gCgsQvE GIaB2FPTzFjms/4rOPLuazo=3D =3DQGX7 =2D----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From media-pt arroba ffii.org Wed Sep 17 14:55:02 2003 From: media-pt arroba ffii.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Wed Sep 17 13:55:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral][ANSOL] [ffii] EUA para Eurodeputados: A =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Excep=E7=E3o?= para Interoperabilidade =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_Inaceit=E1vel?= Message-ID: <1063803281.2627.47.camel@roque> --=-0rpdjGYESYfeb9Y7jbql Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Hartmut Pilch To: news@ffii.org Subject: [ffii] US gov't to MEPs: Interoperability Exemption Inacceptable Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 13:44:44 +0200 FFII News -- For Immediate Release -- Please Redistribute +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ Em http://swpat.ffii.org/#news http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/ustr0309/ encontra-se um documento do governo dos EUA (i.e. os oficiais de topo do Gabinete Norte Americano de Patentes, USPTO) que foi enviado pelo Departame= nto de Estado a diversos Eurodeputados, e uma an=C3=A1lise ao documento, apelan= do ao Parlamento que rejeita o Artigo 6=C2=BA bis, baseando-se em desinforma=C3= =A7=C3=A3o sobre as obriga=C3=A7=C3=B5es da UE perante o tratado TRIPS. Um documento similar foi enviado aos Eurodeputados pelo governo do Reino Un= ido, i.e. o Gabinete de Patentes do RU, ainda este m=C3=AAs. http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/ukrep0309/ Conforme o conflito cresce, torna-se cada vez mais claro quem os actores principais s=C3=A3o e o que est=C3=A1 a ser "harmonizado". A Lei Europeia e= st=C3=A1 a ser alinhada ao Stardard Trilateral de atribui=C3=A7=C3=A3o de patentes sobre p= lanos de neg=C3=B3cio implementados num computador que os tr=C3=AAs grandes gabinete= s de patentes (EUA, UE e Jap=C3=A3o) concordaram em 2000, cuja implementa=C3=A7=C3=A3o = =C3=A9 codificada por esta proposta de directiva, tal como o USPTO o reconhece. Enquanto que o Artigo = 4 se desvia do Stardard Trilateral apenas num n=C3=ADvel ret=C3=B3rico e por = isso n=C3=A3o =C3=A9 nada que preocupe o USPTO, o Artigo 6 bis realmente toca sobre interesses d= os "inventores Americanos", sobre quem o USPTO recentemente se comprometeu a promover globalmente atrav=C3=A9s de um "plano de ac=C3=A7=C3=A3o". O Reino= Unido coopera intimamente nesta agenda com os EUA. Enquanto que os EUA est=C3=A3o a actua= r ao n=C3=ADvel global, o Reino Unido est=C3=A1 a dominar o processo de decis=C3=A3o em Bru= xelas. Esta declara=C3=A7=C3=A3o do USPTO foi enviada principalmente para Eurodeputados= Brit=C3=A2nicos. Produzimos uma s=C3=A9rie de introdu=C3=A7=C3=B5es/an=C3=A1lises dos princi= pais pontos de contencioso, incluindo Interoperabilidade, Patentes e o Artigo 6 bis da Directiva http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/itop/ Reivindica=C3=A7=C3=B5es de Programas: Banindo a Publica=C3=A7=C3=A3o d= e Descri=C3=A7=C3=B5es de Patentes http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/prog/ Porque =C3=A9 que o One Click Shopping da Amazon =C3=A9 Patente=C3=A1ve= l segundo a Proposta de Directiva da UE http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/tech/index.en.html O conte=C3=BAdo destes links encontra-se em ingl=C3=AAs e franc=C3=AAs. --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-0rpdjGYESYfeb9Y7jbql Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/aFmRo+C50no0+t4RAnlbAJ9ucTtYcl7A5kniswPM1JBWHD1MpACeNRb8 hjmC2+wcZidLo6XLP/z2ie8= =1599 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-0rpdjGYESYfeb9Y7jbql-- From ruben arroba nocturno.org Wed Sep 17 15:26:02 2003 From: ruben arroba nocturno.org (Ruben Leote Mendes) Date: Wed Sep 17 14:26:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral][Fwd: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Porq?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ue_n=E3o?= uma carta aberta pro-OS/FSS?] In-Reply-To: <3F59E90A.8030402@m16e.com> References: <3F59E90A.8030402@m16e.com> Message-ID: <20030917133044.GB29737@queen.null.nil> --oLBj+sq0vYjzfsbl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ol=E1, On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 03:02:50PM +0100, Carlos Correia wrote: > Talvez a ANSOL pudesse seguir este exemplo, nem que para isso tivesse=20 > que abrir uma subscri=E7=E3o para angariar os fundos necess=E1rios para= =20 > custear os an=FAncios nos media. Se se arranjar donativos em n=FAmero suficiente n=E3o vejo porque n=E3o ava= n=E7ar com algo do g=E9nero. O que =E9 preciso =E9 algu=E9m para coordenar o esfor= =E7o de recolher os donativos. Algum volunt=E1rio? Um abra=E7o, --=20 R=FAben Leote Mendes - ruben@nocturno.org --oLBj+sq0vYjzfsbl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE/aGIEkNvNeN9nJYcRAvrIAKC3XZl8WdnvAjMvgEdTR/flUjtvvwCgma23 m73jPdJX9wr4AOFf3PQqIAs= =WU7J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oLBj+sq0vYjzfsbl-- From rms arroba 1407.org Wed Sep 17 15:31:03 2003 From: rms arroba 1407.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Wed Sep 17 14:31:03 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Governo =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Portugu=EAs?= assiste a campanha massiva da Microsoft Message-ID: <1063805394.2627.63.camel@roque> --=-wTrYoIwGYjQSkDQ00fAW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Em http://ultimahora.publico.pt/shownews.asp?id=3D1166508&idCanal=3D34 L=C3=AA-se a respeito da visita de Jos=C3=A9 Lu=C3=ADs Arnaut =C3=A0 campan= ha massiva organizada pela Microsoft num "F=C3=B3rum de L=C3=ADderes Governamentais" e= m Roma: (...) O ministro interveio no F=C3=B3rum de L=C3=ADderes Governamentais, uma orga= niza=C3=A7=C3=A3o da empresa Microsoft que junta em Roma, at=C3=A9 quarta-feira, mais de 300 participantes a n=C3=ADvel ministerial de 46 pa=C3=ADses (maioritariamente europeus e da regi=C3=A3o mediterr=C3=A2nica). (...) Em discuss=C3=A3o est=C3=A1 a utiliza=C3=A7=C3=A3o das novas tecnologias na= constru=C3=A7=C3=A3o de um ambiente favor=C3=A1vel ao desenvolvimento econ=C3=B3mico, cria=C3=A7=C3=A3= o de novos empregos, melhoria da produtividade, moderniza=C3=A7=C3=A3o dos servi=C3=A7= os p=C3=BAblicos e educa=C3=A7=C3=A3o, atrac=C3=A7=C3=A3o do investimento privado e integra= =C3=A7=C3=A3o de todos os cidad=C3=A3os na Sociedade da Informa=C3=A7=C3=A3o. (...) favor=C3=A1vel ao desenvolvimento econ=C3=B3mico =3D=3D os governos est=C3= =A3o com roupa a mais, por isso devem gastar mais... ...na Microsoft que at=C3=A9 agradece ver o seu desenvolvimento econ=C3=B3mico assegurado pelos pr=C3=B3ximos anos cria=C3=A7=C3=A3o de novos empregos =3D=3D mais sal=C3=A1rios em t=C3=A9cni= cos que n=C3=A3o podem resolver problemas de base das tecnologias propriet=C3=A1rias da Microsoft melhoria de produtividade =3D=3D os problemas resolvem-se mais rapidamente se existir uma entidade externa a quem dar as culpas. O problema n=C3=A3o se resolve necessariamente mais depressa, mas os t=C3=A9cnicos podem sempr= e dizer que a Microsoft est=C3=A1 a estudar o problema. Entretanto, a fun=C3=A7= =C3=A3o p=C3=BAblica espera calmamente que os sistemas voltem a funcionar quando eventualmente for corrigido o Slammer ou MSBlaster do m=C3=AAs. moderniza=C3=A7=C3=A3o dos servi=C3=A7os p=C3=BAblicos ou educa=C3=A7=C3=A3= o =3D=3D por favor comprem mais licen=C3=A7as, sim aquela= s que expiram a cada tr=C3=AAs anos... para al= =C3=A9m disso, n=C3=A3o reciclem esses antiquados, e inapropriados para qualquer uso a s=C3=A9rio= , Pentiuns III a 500 MHz com 128 Mb de RAM. Adquiram antes novos computadores capazes de correr o novo software. atrac=C3=A7=C3=A3o do investimento privado =3D=3D desta forma a Microsoft i= nveste em Portugal integra=C3=A7=C3=A3o de todos os cidad=C3=A3os na Sociedade da Informa=C3= =A7=C3=A3o =3D=3D aqueles que n=C3=A3o utilizam tecnologias propriet=C3=A1rias, da Microsoft ou outras amigas suas, n=C3=A3o s=C3=A3o cidad=C3=A3os. --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-wTrYoIwGYjQSkDQ00fAW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/aGHSo+C50no0+t4RAs0iAKCLXQWYqwerC0piQM3ezem/ek0OAQCaAiq8 EamkvWo3piXesuqpV/adC4s= =ZcFD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-wTrYoIwGYjQSkDQ00fAW-- From ruben arroba nocturno.org Wed Sep 17 15:43:01 2003 From: ruben arroba nocturno.org (Ruben Leote Mendes) Date: Wed Sep 17 14:43:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Re: Ansol-geral digest, Vol 1 #574 - 3 msgs In-Reply-To: <20030907191218.7dee6399.pagsg@vizzavi.pt> References: <20030907052738.30503.61531.Mailman@default.null> <20030907191218.7dee6399.pagsg@vizzavi.pt> Message-ID: <20030917134735.GC29737@queen.null.nil> --ALfTUftag+2gvp1h Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ol=E1 Paulo, On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 07:12:18PM +0100, Paulo Andr=C3=A9 Guia Silva Gon= =C3=A7alves wrote: >=20 > Talvez este ficheiro que mando em anexo possa ser util para enviar ao min= istro > da educa=E7=E3o e ao da ci=EAncia Antes de mais quero dar-te os parab=E9ns por teres tomado a iniciativa de escrever o documento. Existem no entanto algumas falhas que me saltaram =E0 aten=E7ao na leitura r=E1pida que fiz. A principal prende-se com o facto de, na sec=E7=E3o sobre alternativas livres a software propriet=E1rio, sugerires alternativas n=E3o= -livres (Kylix, BeOS) apenas porque estas correm sobre um sistema operativo livre. Existem tamb=E9m alguns erros gramaticais que deveriam ser corrigidos. Um abra=E7o, --=20 R=FAben Leote Mendes - ruben@nocturno.org --ALfTUftag+2gvp1h Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE/aGX3kNvNeN9nJYcRAho2AKCxgQVXieK+Xk/4ZH8NlOpO2qHYHgCeIEF2 nwYSs/HsO4KGbfvDaDL25Gw= =6VPS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ALfTUftag+2gvp1h-- From media-pt arroba ffii.org Wed Sep 17 18:25:02 2003 From: media-pt arroba ffii.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Wed Sep 17 17:25:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral][ANSOL] [ffii] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Alian=E7a?= Europeia de 2.000.000 de PMEs contra as Patentes de Software Message-ID: <1063815868.2627.90.camel@roque> --=-9EB8B1HzzJEo2mYR8ltu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: PILCH Hartmut To: news@ffii.org Subject: [ffii] European Alliance of 2.000.000 SMEs against Software Patent= s Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2003 17:31:29 +0200 FFII News -- For Immediate Release -- Please Redistribute +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ Uma alian=C3=A7a representando um total de 2 milh=C3=B5es de pequenos e m= =C3=A9dios neg=C3=B3cios Europeus diz que as patentes de software, tal como legalizadas pela proposta de directiva, s=C3=A3o perigosas para as PME. A declara=C3=A7=C3=A3o http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/ceapme0309/index.en.html foi distribu=C3=ADda =C3=A0 imprensa esta manh=C3=A3 e explicada numa confe= r=C3=AAncia de imprensa no Parlamento Europeu. Os legisladores de patentes da Comiss=C3=A3o Europeia t=C3=AAm tentado legi= timar a sua aproxima=C3=A7=C3=A3o alegando uma "maioria econ=C3=B3mica" para a sua = posi=C3=A7=C3=A3o, ver http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eukonsult00/ Agora, estas lega=C3=A7=C3=B5es parecem ainda mais duvidosas do que antes. = As PMEs dizem-se representar cerca de 70% do investimento e empregos no sector das TI. --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-9EB8B1HzzJEo2mYR8ltu Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/aIq8o+C50no0+t4RAkgkAJkBzjo0u0fLr/NBLltI8YYMR5V8LgCfXIed Ou4pOvRLxvabICPGwOcJCFM= =qHaM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-9EB8B1HzzJEo2mYR8ltu-- From rms arroba ansol.org Wed Sep 17 18:36:03 2003 From: rms arroba ansol.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Wed Sep 17 17:36:03 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral][ANSOL] [ffii] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Alian=E7a?= Europeia de 2.000.000 de PMEs contra as Patentes de Software In-Reply-To: <1063815868.2627.90.camel@roque> References: <1063815868.2627.90.camel@roque> Message-ID: <1063816546.2627.95.camel@roque> --=-NcbvP5cKEQ7Jwu8kM4o7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No URL indicado no email anterior > http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/ceapme0309/index.en.html N=C3=A3o se deve confundir os 2 milh=C3=B5es de PMEs com os mais de 500000 = membros da CEA-PME. A declara=C3=A7=C3=A3o =C3=A9 conjunta CEA-PME + CEDI + ESBA ta= l como se pode ler no PDF do Press Release, dispon=C3=ADvel nos "Annotated Links" no final da p=C3=A1gina: Alliance for Action http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/ceapme0309/ceapme-ab0309.en.pd= f=20 --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-NcbvP5cKEQ7Jwu8kM4o7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/aI1io+C50no0+t4RAoK5AKDNlQji3WxObTxO6Rk3s9PF+m8GVgCfTQXx cuRx5Wq6C8zGs48qc+buY0c= =cfPO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-NcbvP5cKEQ7Jwu8kM4o7-- From ruben arroba nocturno.org Fri Sep 19 04:48:01 2003 From: ruben arroba nocturno.org (Ruben Leote Mendes) Date: Fri Sep 19 03:48:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Re: Ansol-geral digest, Vol 1 #574 - 3 msgs In-Reply-To: <3F691592.6090605@mail.pt> References: <20030907052738.30503.61531.Mailman@default.null> <20030907191218.7dee6399.pagsg@vizzavi.pt> <20030917134735.GC29737@queen.null.nil> <3F691592.6090605@mail.pt> Message-ID: <20030919024834.GB634@queen.null.nil> --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ol=E1, O Diogo enviou esta mensagem apenas para mim, mas penso que prentendia enviar para a lista. On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 03:16:50AM +0100, Diogo Miguel Constantino dos Sant= os wrote: > Ruben Leote Mendes wrote: >=20 > >(Kylix, BeOS) apenas porque estas correm sobre um sistema operativo livr= e. >=20 > Kylix tem uma vers=E3o Software Livre licenciada como GPL. > OpenBeOS um sistema que est=E1 a ser desenvolvido por utilizadores de=20 > BeOS para substituir o BeOS =E9 Software Livre licenciado com a licen=E7a= =20 > X11 (alias ao que sei h=E1 partes do codigo do sistema que est=E3o sob GP= L). N=E3o sabia. Sendo assim as minhas desculpas ao autor do documento. Um abra=E7o, --=20 R=FAben Leote Mendes - ruben@nocturno.org --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE/am6CkNvNeN9nJYcRAimsAKCpy25D4Nf8oHPxTRfGAi/PERbV9wCeJM4+ dKaSMOX6rSsqqIxafwpIQvo= =13D2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YiEDa0DAkWCtVeE4-- From ruben arroba nocturno.org Fri Sep 19 04:54:01 2003 From: ruben arroba nocturno.org (Ruben Leote Mendes) Date: Fri Sep 19 03:54:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Patentes: =?iso-8859-1?B?cG9zaefj?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?o?= da Assoft Message-ID: <20030919025408.GC634@queen.null.nil> --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ol=E1, Fui por acaso ao f=F3rum do INPI (http://www.inpi.pt/index_fum.htm) e encontrei l=E1 a posi=E7=E3o da Assoft relativa =E0 actual proposta de Dire= ctiva sobre patentes de programas de computador. Penso que ainda n=E3o tinha sido aqui referida. Destaco a seguinte passagem: "Em nosso entender, na aus=EAncia de estudos econ=F3micos e de impacto=20 independentes, s=E9rios e aprofundados, em particular sobre as PME's , tend= o em=20 conta o emprego e o impacto social a longo prazo, seria arriscado legislar = de=20 forma precipitada para alargar o =E2mbito da aplica=E7=E3o do regime de pat= entes a=20 um n=FAmero indefinido de programas inform=E1ticos considerados produtores = de=20 "efeito t=E9cnico" e que seria mais vantajoso harmonizar o direito e , por= =20 consequ=EAncia, a jurisprud=EAncia dos pa=EDses membros confirmando, como = =E9 j=E1 o=20 caso, na maior parte dos pa=EDses aderentes, a possibilidade de patentear= =20 inventos t=E9cnicos que incluem o c=F3digo espec=EDfico indispens=E1vel ao = seu=20 funcionamento, mas n=E3o aqueles que consistam =FAnica e principalmente de= =20 software, ou utilizem quase exclusivamente software standard" Um abra=E7o, --=20 R=FAben Leote Mendes - ruben@nocturno.org --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Para mais informações veja http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE/am/QkNvNeN9nJYcRAg3DAKDaNCVS+AZdIjhjFMHIR2GF1aOJwgCfYtqO V/XGRNAMl5oLmt62+amigyo= =2sWd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tjCHc7DPkfUGtrlw-- From rms arroba ansol.org Wed Sep 24 16:38:02 2003 From: rms arroba ansol.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Wed Sep 24 15:38:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral][ANSOL] [ffii] Parlamento Europeu vota por Limites Reais =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E0?= Patenteabilidade Message-ID: <1064417980.2980.50.camel@roque> --=-4SEX15TBMTht6i4TNxuX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: PILCH Hartmut To: news@ffii.org Subject: [ffii] Europarl votes for Real Limits on Patentability Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:38:08 +0200 FFII News -- For Immediate Release -- Please Redistribute +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ Ver http://swpat.ffii.org/#news Agora vamos ter de ver se a Comiss=C3=A3o Europeia est=C3=A1 dedicada =C3= =A0 "harmoniza=C3=A7=C3=A3o e clarifica=C3=A7=C3=A3o" ou apenas aos interesses = dos detentores de patentes. As amea=C3=A7as emitidas ontem, por Bolkestein, ao Parlamento Europeu sugerem a segunda hip=C3=B3tese. Os resultados detalhados est=C3=A3o dispon=C3=ADveis no nosso site: http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/plen0923/ Agora o nosso trabalho ser=C3=A1 ajudar o Parlamento Europeu a defender-se contra as tentativas, de Bolkestein e dos advogados de patentes que vestem os chap=C3=A9us dos governos nacionais, de esmagar o projecto de directiva. O texto actual contem ainda algumas contradi=C3=A7=C3=B5es, mas o impulso foi invertido. Tornou-se agora na nossa directiva, que temos de ajudar o Parlamento Europeu a defender. Tamb=C3=A9m se trata da quest=C3=A3= o do papel do Parlamento Europeu na emergente Europa democr=C3=A1tica. No geral, s=C3=A3o muito boas not=C3=ADcias para a UE. --=20 Hartmut Pilch, FFII & Eurolinux Alliance tel. +49-89-18979927 Protecting Innovation against Patent Inflation =20 http://swpat.ffii.org/ 270,000 votes 2000 firms against software patents =20 http://noepatents.org/ --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-4SEX15TBMTht6i4TNxuX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/cbq8o+C50no0+t4RAvhpAJwIu0YzKOq6UFY1EHzOkl1VhYveXACfYSyv VC2zfLXsiBUXFoBHfoY8LQA= =6+nn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-4SEX15TBMTht6i4TNxuX-- From lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com Thu Sep 25 07:54:01 2003 From: lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com (Lopo de Almeida) Date: Thu Sep 25 06:54:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral][ANSOL] [ffii] Parlamento Europeu vota por Limites Reais à Patenteabilidade References: <1064417980.2980.50.camel@roque> Message-ID: <00a301c38327$830b1290$6c815451@paula> Ainda bem que tudo vai no bom caminho :) Vou passar isto no meu circuito de Press Release. Lopo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rui Miguel Seabra" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:39 PM Subject: [ANSOL-geral][ANSOL] [ffii] Parlamento Europeu vota por Limites Reais à Patenteabilidade From: PILCH Hartmut To: news@ffii.org Subject: [ffii] Europarl votes for Real Limits on Patentability Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 15:38:08 +0200 FFII News -- For Immediate Release -- Please Redistribute +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ Ver http://swpat.ffii.org/#news Agora vamos ter de ver se a Comissão Europeia está dedicada à "harmonização e clarificação" ou apenas aos interesses dos detentores de patentes. As ameaças emitidas ontem, por Bolkestein, ao Parlamento Europeu sugerem a segunda hipótese. Os resultados detalhados estão disponíveis no nosso site: http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/plen0923/ Agora o nosso trabalho será ajudar o Parlamento Europeu a defender-se contra as tentativas, de Bolkestein e dos advogados de patentes que vestem os chapéus dos governos nacionais, de esmagar o projecto de directiva. O texto actual contem ainda algumas contradições, mas o impulso foi invertido. Tornou-se agora na nossa directiva, que temos de ajudar o Parlamento Europeu a defender. Também se trata da questão do papel do Parlamento Europeu na emergente Europa democrática. No geral, são muito boas notícias para a UE. -- Hartmut Pilch, FFII & Eurolinux Alliance tel. +49-89-18979927 Protecting Innovation against Patent Inflation http://swpat.ffii.org/ 270,000 votes 2000 firms against software patents http://noepatents.org/ -- + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com Thu Sep 25 16:07:01 2003 From: lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com (Lopo de Almeida) Date: Thu Sep 25 15:07:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Fw: Survey on Open Source Software Development based Virtual Communities Message-ID: <002a01c3836c$6259ba20$a4805451@paula> Viva, Achei interessante e como nem todos devem estar registados no SF.NET ;) 1, Lopo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Prajwal Basnet" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:17 AM Subject: Survey on Open Source Software Development based Virtual Communities The University of Southern Queensland (USQ) Toowoomba, Queensland, 4350 AUSTRALIA http://www.usq.edu.au Information Systems Department Faculty of Business ____________________________________________________ Dear Free-Open Source Software Programmer, I am conducting a research project sponsored by the University of Southern Queensland on Free-Open Source Software (Free-OSS) Development. The development of Free-OSS has generated considerable interest in the academic research community. We would like to gain a better understanding of how virtual communities such as SourceForge.net operate and the factors which have enabled their widespread success. This will help to raise awareness of Free-OSS development and its potential as an alternative to traditional forms of software development. As a member of the SourceForge.net virtual community, we ask for your help in conducting this research project. An online questionnaire of SourceForge.net developers is located at: http://www.javaram.com/pbsurvey/index.asp We would be greatful if you could complete this short questionnaire which will take around 10 minutes to fill in. You may be assured of complete confidentiality. Your SourceForge.net email address will only be used to contact you about this research project and its results if you are interested. At no time will it be used for any other purpose. The results of this project will be published in aggregate form, so you will never be personally identified as part of the results of this study. I would like to thank you in advance for participating in this study, and I would be happy to answer any questions you may have through email. Sincerely, Prajwal Basnet Project Director Email: praj@usq.edu.au Phone: +61 07 4631 1423 From rms arroba 1407.org Thu Sep 25 16:23:02 2003 From: rms arroba 1407.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Thu Sep 25 15:23:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Porque =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9?= que o Softwar Livre =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E9?= sempre melhor? Message-ID: <1064503511.6651.80.camel@roque> --=-TtNVagE1fiKyhuBYsQss Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Num post no Gildot[1], von escreve: O software =C3=A9 uma ferramenta. N=C3=A3o =C3=A9, =C3=A0 partida, mel= hor apenas por ser "livre" ou por ser "propriet=C3=A1rio". Software Livre =C3=A9 n=C3=A3o =C3=A9 o software que =C3=A9 n=C3=A3o est=C3= =A1 preso. =C3=89 o software que concede a _todos_ os utilizadores quatro liberdades consideradas como fundamentais: 1) A liberdade de executar o software, para qualquer uso. 2) A liberdade de estudar o funcionamento de um programa e de adapt=C3=A1-lo =C3=A0s suas necessidades. (para a qual =C3=A9 necess= =C3=A1rio ter acesso ao c=C3=B3digo fonte) 3) A liberdade de redistribuir c=C3=B3pias. 4) A liberdade de melhorar o programa e de tornar as modifica=C3=A7=C3= =B5es p=C3=BAblicas de modo que a comunidade inteira beneficie da melhoria= . Qualquer software que n=C3=A3o conceda estas quatro liberdades =C3=A9 dito como n=C3=A3o-livre ou propriet=C3=A1rio. Como estas liberdades s=C3=A3o co= nsideradas fundamentais, no dom=C3=ADnio do software, e como qualquer restri=C3=A7=C3= =A3o de liberdade =C3=A9 uma coisa m=C3=A1 (n=C3=A3o estou a falar de puni=C3=A7=C3= =B5es), ent=C3=A3o decorre que o software que n=C3=A3o concede estas quatro liberdades a _todo= s_ os utilizadores est=C3=A1 a fazer uma coisa m=C3=A1 aos utilizadores: restringir-lhes a liberdade Assim sendo, =C3=A9 sempre melhor n=C3=A3o sermos punidos com restri=C3=A7= =C3=A3o de liberdade apenas porque queremos uma necessidade satisfeita. =C3=89 melhor do que as alternativas baseado na qualidade t=C3=A9cnica que tem. N=C3=A3o apenas. A vis=C3=A3o da qualidade t=C3=A9cnica, embora importante,= n=C3=A3o =C3=A9 o =C3=BAnico ponto de vista que deve ser seguido. Decidir assim reve= la que foram consideradas apenas pormenores t=C3=A9cnicos e pouco ou nada as suas consequ=C3=AAncias longo prazo. H=C3=A1 bom software livre, como o h=C3=A1 mau, Mau =C3=A9 uma palavra amb=C3=ADgua neste caso. O que se quer dizer =C3=A9 = que h=C3=A1 software livre que pode n=C3=A3o satisfazer a necessidade t=C3=A9cn= ica na sua plenitude. Mas tamb=C3=A9m, ningu=C3=A9m no seu perfeito ju=C3=ADzo afirmaria que qualquer software livre satisfaz todas as necessidades t=C3=A9cnicas. tendo a vantagem de poder ser alterado/melhorado, embora nem sempre isso seja compensador pois podem exitir alternativas (livres ou propriet=C3=A1rias) de qualidade superior.=20 =C3=89 sempre verdade, e gra=C3=A7as ao exerc=C3=ADcio das 4 liberdades fundamentais =C3=A9 poss=C3=ADvel melhorar, completar, at=C3=A9 se ter a satisfa=C3=A7=C3=A3o necess=C3=A1ria, dependendo, =C3=A9 claro, da capacida= de t=C3=A9cnica de quem manipula. Pode ser necess=C3=A1rio adquirir o servi=C3=A7o a programadores profissionais, de forma a obter determinada funcionalidade que n=C3=A3o esteja pronta. Cair num talibanismo pro-software livre e n=C3=A3o ver nada mais =C3=A9= um exagero e =C3=A9 o erro de muita gente. Esta =C3=A9 uma acusa=C3=A7=C3=A3o t=C3=ADpica, que n=C3=A3o =C3=A9 muito d= if=C3=ADcil de rebater... Os Talibans perseguem ferozmente quem n=C3=A3o segue o modelo religioso deles. As empresas de software n=C3=A3o-livre tipicamente perseguem ferozmente que= m n=C3=A3o segue o modelo econ=C3=B3mico delas. Basta ter em aten=C3=A7=C3=A3o os raids =C3=A0 procura de c=C3=B3pias n=C3= =A3o autorizadas de software, e come=C3=A7ar a pensar em como isso =C3=A9 perfeitamente an=C3= =A1logo aos raids religiosos contra os infi=C3=A9is, quem sabe se n=C3=A3o culminando e= m audazes actos terroristas provocando a morte de milhares. Rui [1] http://www.gildot.org/comments.pl?sid=3D03/09/24/238254&cid=3D21 --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-TtNVagE1fiKyhuBYsQss Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/cwjXo+C50no0+t4RAvVnAJ9zbX9gVAYH9VTCVTlM6jdQFbxkcgCfX4ty eo4P9xD/UXfjzsp4SFLKhBs= =EYZF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-TtNVagE1fiKyhuBYsQss-- From rms arroba 1407.org Thu Sep 25 16:54:01 2003 From: rms arroba 1407.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Thu Sep 25 15:54:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Fw: Survey on Open Source Software Development based Virtual Communities In-Reply-To: <002a01c3836c$6259ba20$a4805451@paula> References: <002a01c3836c$6259ba20$a4805451@paula> Message-ID: <1064505379.6651.106.camel@roque> --=-ayZY29AKCfF7SqE3Hf4B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 14:52, Lopo de Almeida wrote: > (...) e como nem todos devem estar registados no SF.NET > (...) Muitos voluntariamente sa=C3=ADram de l=C3=A1. A SourceForge =C3=A9 neste m= omento um mostru=C3=A1rio de software propriet=C3=A1rio, e algumas das suas features = s=C3=A3o "viciantes" (tal qual a droga). Para al=C3=A9m disso, tem o cvs an=C3=B3nimo a estar mais tempo sem funcion= ar do que a funcionar, aumentando o perigo de lock-in... O projecto GNU tem um sistema semelhante, mas apenas com software livre, chamado Savannah: http://savannah.gnu.org Abra=C3=A7os, Rui --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-ayZY29AKCfF7SqE3Hf4B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/cxAjo+C50no0+t4RAl20AKC0czhhGB3dwJrPh526dWETNrPK5ACfZXJS vxhNflkCvvF+nm81n7Nlrtg= =5NrJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-ayZY29AKCfF7SqE3Hf4B-- From lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com Fri Sep 26 13:00:02 2003 From: lopo.almeida arroba sitaar.com (Lopo de Almeida) Date: Fri Sep 26 12:00:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Fw: Survey on Open Source Software Developmentbased Virtual Communities References: <002a01c3836c$6259ba20$a4805451@paula> <1064505379.6651.106.camel@roque> Message-ID: <003801c3841b$64004ab0$5b805451@paula> A tua resposta é secundária à questão. Se o tipo trabalhou isto com a SF (e se calhar com outros) é porque a SF ainda tem uma das maiores bases de dados de programadores/etc. Foste fazer o questionário? Divulgaste junto dos programadores que conheces? Isto é que é o importante. E desculpa se pareceu uma apologia do SF. Não era. Eu tenho três projectos em sites SF-like; no SF.net, no Savannah e no BerliOS e até sugeri ao produtor do estudo que contactasse os gestores dos vários sistemas e as associações ligadas ao SF para ter uma abrangência maior e mais realista. 1[], Lopo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rui Miguel Seabra" To: "Lista ANSOL Geral" Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [ANSOL-geral]Fw: Survey on Open Source Software Developmentbased Virtual Communities On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 14:52, Lopo de Almeida wrote: > (...) e como nem todos devem estar registados no SF.NET > (...) Muitos voluntariamente saíram de lá. A SourceForge é neste momento um mostruário de software proprietário, e algumas das suas features são "viciantes" (tal qual a droga). Para além disso, tem o cvs anónimo a estar mais tempo sem funcionar do que a funcionar, aumentando o perigo de lock-in... O projecto GNU tem um sistema semelhante, mas apenas com software livre, chamado Savannah: http://savannah.gnu.org Abraços, Rui -- + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html From rms arroba 1407.org Fri Sep 26 13:51:02 2003 From: rms arroba 1407.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Fri Sep 26 12:51:02 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Fw: Survey on Open Source Software Developmentbased Virtual Communities In-Reply-To: <003801c3841b$64004ab0$5b805451@paula> References: <002a01c3836c$6259ba20$a4805451@paula> <1064505379.6651.106.camel@roque> <003801c3841b$64004ab0$5b805451@paula> Message-ID: <1064580715.2860.2.camel@roque> --=-A4wdAFehu4/R0my9FEzA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 11:44, Lopo de Almeida wrote: > E desculpa se pareceu uma apologia do SF. N=C3=A3o era. N=C3=A3o te preocupes, n=C3=A3o pensei que fosse uma apologia, mas... > On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 14:52, Lopo de Almeida wrote: > > (...) e como nem todos devem estar registados no SF.NET > > (...) ... pode ser interpretado como: Se estivessem registados sabiam destas coisas giras... E comentei sobre esse ponto. Rui --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html --=-A4wdAFehu4/R0my9FEzA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/dDZro+C50no0+t4RAsgvAJ46kkfIxN2qGNdS8saXySrdfAAMZACfYf2O B7LwVPFeWi8+Nggfmi2cdMQ= =ng0T -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-A4wdAFehu4/R0my9FEzA-- From joao arroba silvaneves.org Mon Sep 29 02:41:01 2003 From: joao arroba silvaneves.org (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o?= Miguel Neves) Date: Mon Sep 29 01:41:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral]Software Livre para Empresas Message-ID: <1064795872.15827.9.camel@home.silvaneves.org> --=-Mx7Xqj4ikfzQUEkqo1O2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Uma amigo pediu-me um texto sobre Software livre para empresas, escrevi qualquer coisa em http://www.ansol.org/ansolwiki/SoftwareLivreEmEmpresas Pode ser que d=EA jeito a algu=E9m. Quem descobrir erros ou quiser completa= r ou melhorar o texto de qualquer forma, o link EditText est=E1 no fundo da p=E1gina. --=20 Jo=E3o Miguel Neves --=-Mx7Xqj4ikfzQUEkqo1O2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/d37gGFkMfesLN9wRAm2gAJ0ccpTt8q2fYTrYcYF7V+Nk4JcwpQCeJkn4 77kdbhJQdy9+Nbwt1tZ2ECs= =DuVf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-Mx7Xqj4ikfzQUEkqo1O2-- From rms arroba ansol.org Mon Sep 29 19:02:01 2003 From: rms arroba ansol.org (Rui Miguel Seabra) Date: Mon Sep 29 18:02:01 2003 Subject: [ANSOL-geral][ANSOL] [ffii] Iniciadores da =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peti=E7=E3o?= Agradecem ao Parlamento Europeu Message-ID: <1064855042.10428.145.camel@roque> --=-CADTcY9+9OKlSn0ke7gw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Forwarded Message----- From: PILCH Hartmut To: news@ffii.org Subject: [ffii] Petition Initiators Thank the European Parliament Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 17:38:42 +0200 FFII News -- For Immediate Release -- Please Redistribute +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ +++ Iniciadores da Peti=C3=A7=C3=A3o Agradecem ao Parlamento Europeu Bruxelas 2003/09/29 Na passada Quarta-feira o Parlamento Europeu votou contra patentes de software e a favor das liberdades de publica=C3=A7=C3=A3o, interope= rabilidade e outros valores basilares da sociedade da informa=C3=A7=C3=A3o, inver= tendo assim o impulso de uma proposta de directiva da Comiss=C3=A3o Europeia= , satisfazendo basicamente as exig=C3=AAncias de um quarto de milh=C3=A3= o de subscritores da "Peti=C3=A7=C3=A3o Eurolinux para uma Europa Livre de = Patentes de Software" e 30 proeminentes cientistas de computa=C3=A7=C3=A3o. Os = iniciadores de ambas as peti=C3=A7=C3=B5es v=C3=A3o falar com o Comit=C3=A9 de Pet= i=C3=A7=C3=B5es do Parlamento Europeu na pr=C3=B3xima Ter=C3=A7a-feira =C3=A0s 18h00 para exprimir o= seu agradecimento e explorar com os Eurodeputados sobre o que ainda falta fazer. Detalhes A [12]Peti=C3=A7=C3=A3o para uma Europa Livre de Patentes de Software = e a [13]Peti=C3=A7=C3=A3o dos Cientistas v=C3=A3o ser apresentadas Ter=C3= =A7a-feira 30 de Setembro de 2003 =C3=A0s 18h00 no Comit=C3=A9 das Peti=C3=A7=C3=B5es, = na Sala A3G2 do Edif=C3=ADcio Altiero Spinelli (ASP) do Parlamento Europeu em Bruxelas por Hartmut Pilch e Philippe Aigrain. As patentes de software estar=C3=A3o possivelmente na agenda de um enc= ontro de peritos de patentes dos governos dos Estados-membros no Conselho Europeu. Tanto o lobby dos detentores de patentes de software e do Comiss=C3=A1rio para o Mercado Interno da Uni=C3=A3o Europeia Frits Bo= lkestein contam agora com o Conselho, cujo "grupo de trabalho de pol=C3=ADtica = de patentes" se tem provado no passado como muito dispon=C3=ADvel para responder aos desejos dos detentores de patentes. Bolkestein e os seus superiores prev=C3=AAem que o Conselho remover=C3=A1 a directiva ou, s= e isso falhar, ceder=C3=A1 =C3=A0 press=C3=A3o dos EUA. No in=C3=ADcio deste = m=C3=AAs [17]Frits Bolkestein e o [16] Gabinete de Patentes dos EUA publicaram avisos aos Eurodeputados de que os primeiros poder=C3=A3o arruinar as = suas hip=C3=B3teses de participam democr=C3=A1tica se eles votassem commo v= otaram na passada Quarta-feira. Nesta atmosfera de campanha de medo, incerteza e desconfian=C3=A7a (MI= D, vindo do FUD fear, uncertainty and distrust) contra o Parlamento Europeu, tanto o [18]Sr. Aigrain como o Sr. Pilch esperam refor=C3=A7a= r a posi=C3=A7=C3=A3o do Parlamento. Para participar no encontro, por favor contact por email com [19] Benjamin Henrion. Contactos dos Media: email: media at ffii org telefone: FFII Munich office 0049/89/18979927 Benjamin Henrion 0032/498/292771 or 0032/10/454779 Mais Contactos ser=C3=A3o disponibilizados a pedido URL permanente deste Press Release http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/epet0929/index.en.html Links Anotados [...] Refer=C3=AAncias 12. http://petition.eurolinux.org/ 13. http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/komp0305/index.en.html 14. http://swpat.ffii.org/players/consilium/index.en.html 16. http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/usrep0309/index.en.html 17. http://swpat.ffii.org/papers/eubsa-swpat0202/plen0309/deba/index.en.h= tml#bolk 18. http://swpat.ffii.org/news/03/epet0929/paigrain-epet030929.pdf --=20 + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. 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